Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

people will keep voting until they get the change they require even if it takes a number of election cycles .. we can see change slowly happening all over europe people have enough

And NorthernLily is representative of the great people both in the wider community and on this thread, that you and others routinely insist are 'anti immigrant' or 'far right'. Shame on yous.

Heading for violence? Several burned out buildings and heavy handed policing in Roscrea says it's arrived already.

Given the political temperature on this, the way the DCEDIY is handling this, it's nothing short of shocking. It knows that there are people out there with a propensity to burn things down so if it is not considering a building it needs to be 100% honest and forthright that it's not. Stalling and non committal statements breeds mistrust and feeds into the anger that results in these fires. The department isn't lighting the match but it isn't doing anything to dampen the kindling either.

And where the department is considering a building, it needs to inform the community at each stage, from preliminary through to contract signing. It needs to give communities meaningful input and if they make coherent arguments why a building or location is not suitable, listen and if necessary, back off.

The more the feeling is out there that these centres are being imposed from on high, the more the fires will continue. That's the reality.

She also said that over 80% of people from safe countries are refused asylum.

Sounds promising until you actually break it down and dig deeper. Of those 80% refused, 80% of them are refused on appeal. So that means actually only 64% of original group are refused (80% of 80%) and 34% are accepted.

Then of those 64%, how many are granted other statuses such as "leave to remain" and allowed to work? No mention of that from her. But given that only 10% of all asylum seekers were given deportation orders last year, it's likely to be similar for that group. So suddenly we are at 90% getting to stay in Ireland, even though they are from a safe country!

But it gets even worse because of course we know only 32 out of 872 deportation orders were actually enforced last year. Thats about 5% of all those supposed to leave.

So you can see the misinformation coming from the Government minister. She claims 80% are "refused asylum", but when you dig deeper probably less than 1% are actually removed from the country.

Ya but the 79% percent we ask them to leave nicely and of course they do, they wouldnt lie to us

Give the community lots of notice to let their feelings known. Some communities might be delighted.

I do not believe that these should be imposed on locations that do not want them.

They don't have to consult them but the public representatives should be informed that preliminary discussions are taking place.

There is absolutely no place for this kind of secrecy in a democracy.

That is the way agencies and local government throughout Europe conduct their business all of the time - contact by email and telephone between various stakeholders and interested parties. How do you think we managed to accommodate 75,000 Ukrainian people in a short period of time? There must have been tens of thousands of emails sent and phone calls made without any public involvement.

Nobody has a veto on who can live in their town or village

Whatever they did they did not " invent bogeymen " .

Those same scumbags have been stirring for the last couple of years and they along with imported scammers are burning buildings which could just as 3asily be used to house Irish people as anyone else.

Anyway not the point .

Arson is a crime and potentially lethal.

Why? It's not a legal obligation? The planning system is busy dealing with housing. That's actually a bit of a ridiculous suggestion to start giving planners loads of work that is absolutely unnecessary for them to do.

You're wrong about that. At the moment, literally hundreds of thousands of good people in Germany are protesting against the racists who try to blame political problems on migrants. Against the whole idiotic narrative that 'dropping' migrants into a country is the reason for any kinds of problems.

BTW - two children of the migrants 'dropped' onto Germany in the last decades saved millions of lives, by developing the first Covid vaccine. Not that this is something the racist crowd would acknowledge or appreciate. Doesn't fit their idiotic narrative.