Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Update today, bit of over and back through emails.

I have been asked to check

If another RVM will accept it - 4 of them across 2 different shops wouldn't

The barcode might be "slightly scratched or dented" - not a good sign for anybody trying to return

Recommend that I return the can manually - no idea where my nearest manual return point is, neither did the re-turn person on email

In a complete contradiction to what we have been told all along, the deposit may not be refundable on certain products

The one thing I can't check is the retailer must refund me the deposit if I have been incorrectly charged one... Without a receipt that's simply not going to happen though

Contact the head office of the chain you bought it from the details are maintained by them. They can also see the history of when the DRS charge was added to the product

Not a bad idea thanks

There seems to be a lot of missed opportunities with this scheme, why not let individuals make submissions to update the system

Hoping this will be the result of my above experience

Also, why cant people have a keytag type barcode/app, like a customer loyalty scheme, overall an app based system too, that you can either scan your tag or on phone screen bar or qr code?? and then upload any deposit return to your account?

You mean instead of using a voucher on a receipt? Simplicity I'd guess is the main reason

Recovering your deposit, is limited to the store where you drop the items off?

It isn't, you can get cash and bring the cash to another store

The Return.ie site shows very limited information in terms of how you complete a return or recover your deposit which could be helpful for people doing returns, crappy loud animations, they couldn't do a linked youtube clips? showing returning of items?

It's true, like something a 5 year old designed

Whats to stop someone making copies of barcodes? and applying them to appropriate material? an old beer can and the exact same can with a return code, if its recycling correctly? or one with a damaged code?

Nothingb stopping you

What part of this have you actually worked on?

I think that not having some account/app based system, makes it simpler for them, doesn't mean it makes it better for the end user OR recycling overall. It actually looks to complicate the return deposit system in favour of the system/against the recycler, if someone doesn't get their deposit returned because, it looks like its a paper based till receipt type record, aside from being outdated, it is prone to such a hardcopy system failing or running out of paper. I see someone referred to the German system and they were corrected that deposits aren't paid for, but what wasn't corrected which I think that poster have pointed out is, that they don't appear to limit recycleable materials based on a barcode. If the deposit return is based on plastic materials rather than just based on a barcode it would encourage recycling and combat some littering. Even if material is rejected as not being viable as its the wrong material, but not because it is damaged/or missing a barcode, the material should still be recyclable and refundable.

A system that is based on an account makes more sense, as the RVM means the person has to go to the shop to get a refund, thats silly itself and it seems needlessly complicated and time consuming, when it could be uploaded automatically to a persons account, where they should be able to apply for vouchers for any retailer that wants to be added, OR even any credit to be refunded to a bank account or revolut card.

Yep, just found another crappy video clip, can they not do a straightforward clip and just say which plastics are recycleable using the existing material and no. types within the mobius symbol for recycling, that website is a ridiculous mess, they are literally making it cartoonish, not straighforward and just easy to do, just like the implementation of this. I hope this is teething problems and they do some updates and take feedback rather than what I expect, dig their heels in and ignore. I don't really get why this isn't run by CoCos in conjunction with retailers either, and while I understand why very small locations wont have an RVM, hopefully they will become more widespread as the nearest one to me appears to be 15km, thats ok for me as I have a car, although Id still have to go out of my way to get to it, Id probably be better going further just so one is on my route.

Your the one making claims. What I want to know is what I asked.

We will file it under spoofing.

I didn't ask for details

I asked

What part of this have you actually worked on?

You were all too happy to tell people you worked on it but when asked a basic question you are pleading the fifth.

 Don't believe me

I don't.

I do know more on the subject than people who make up stuff here

You demonstrated quite clearly you don't.

OK

What "demonstrates" this to you?

Not my software and I am not responsible for the data uploaded to the RVM. This is where I show your lack of knowledge because just working on software does not make me responsible for every store/chain and their procedures. You would want to be particularly ignorant of the IT industry to assume one person working on DRS software is responsible for all stores.

When you are sweeping a street are you responsible for all streets to be swept?

Just wondering if it's unusual or common but I've been to a Lidl store on 2 separate occasions since 1 Feb and on both times the 2 RVMs were out of order. Been to Tesco as well and the RVMs were working

Then what is you problem? Bring it and see if it works

The whole project is without merit. You outlined some of the issues with it in that post.

There was no way to enhance or improve the existing schemes which is a complete nonsense.

You may have worked on the project, tbh I have no reason not to believe you, but that doesn't make the project beyond question or aspects of it infallible.