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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #30842
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The only way to deal with MAGA GOP..

    https://twitter.com/RepMcGovern/status/1754660994092069360?s=20




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    #30843
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump attempts at scuttling the Border deal looks like it's going to blow up on him and the GOP

    The Border Patrol union have just come out in support of the deal.

    They traditionally have been very vocal Trump supporters.

    Hard to know how they keep saying that it's a terrible deal blah blah blah when the actual people doing the job want it

    Yet again Trump shows they he simply doesn't know how any of this works.

    All of this just makes Biden look better and removes the Border as a stick to beat him with.

    Shades of his Government shutdowns.



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    #30844
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,313 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727730#Comment_121727730

    You do see through these incidents, as well as prior ones like the Healthcare reform debacle, a stark demonstration of just how poor a businessman alleged Big Businessman Trump is. No conniving instincts, no deftness of manipulation, just empty braggadocio that thinks shouting and belligerence gets the job done.

    I do wonder now that McConnell has put his cards on the table, and decided the Border Bill is bipartisan enough for his blood, if MAGA will go after his own health problems. They're obsessed with "cognitive decline" and McConnell's has been so public I could see the ghouls among MAGA deciding to round on McConnell with that narrative.



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    #30845
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,707 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727623#Comment_121727623

    A satisfying retort, I'm sure, but it's obviously not going to make her go, "Damn, I really got owned, there. Guess it's time to start acting like a normal person and not a spiteful trollop."

    She'll just feel more legitimised in her spiel because "they're doing it, too", but that would only be after getting called out on playing the victim.

    Like picking a scab, taking on people like MTG in this way feels good in the moment, but exacerbates the problem as well. But is there a way to deal with their noise without getting in the mud pit?



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    #30846
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727823#Comment_121727823

    It shows how messed up his world view is.

    He views everything as a zero sum game - There cannot be a winner if there isn't also a clear and obvious loser so he confronts everything in that incredibly simplistic binary way. When in reality the best way to get the "win" , especially in politics is to let the other guy think they are getting something out of the deal as well , but he is utterly incapable of thinking like that.

    The "win" here would have been to add/remove a few small bits from the deal and then claim that the GOP had forced Biden to deal with the border and that only they had made him take it seriously.

    Then afterwards they could attack him for not doing it fast enough etc.

    By just blocking it and worse by ensuring that everyone knows that they aren't blocking it for any reason other than trying to make Biden look bad, they make themselves look petty and unserious.

    They have basically removed one of the few remaining things they could have hoped to use on the campaign trails - Or at least damaged it significantly.

    Because if the deal doesn't go through , Biden and the Democrats can now blame/deflect it all on the GOP for not approving the bill.

    And if they do decide now to vote for the deal , they just look really weak and disorganised.

    A incredibly dumb move politically , but it's not surprising at all.



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    #30847
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,691 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    It is looking like the Border deal negotiated in the Senate will die there. Rather than even having the balls to pass it there and force the house Reps to kill it.

    https://us.cnn.com/2024/02/05/politics/border-deal-senate-vote/index.html


    GOP senators and indeed the entirety of the GOP that isn't MAGA, have now made crystal to the US electorate that Donnie is their King. That despite failing at every ballot other 2016, despite knowing that he is divisive, dangerous and dim!

    That following his whim, is more important than doing what's good for the US, what's good for global security and if nothing else? That once guaranteed GOP vote winner, doing what's bad for Russia! Are all steps too far for the "new" GOP.

    I hope at least that the Dems manage to hammer home the failure of the GOP to take the best chance of a border deal in decades! Because I don't see Trump passing anything. Even when he had both houses, he was a legislative failure.



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    #30848
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728002#Comment_121728002

    This should be explained with crayons by Biden in the State of the Union speech..



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    #30849
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728036#Comment_121728036

    Oh , they're trying to stop him from getting that opportunity..

    President Biden would be barred from delivering the State of the Union address to Congress until he sends along a budget request and national security strategy, under legislation introduced Monday by Sen. Joni Ernst

    The Send Us Budget Materials & International Tactics In Time (SUBMIT IT) Act would block House and Senate leadership from inviting the president to give the annual address until lawmakers receive those materials.

    “Well, actions speak louder than words, folks, and Biden’s budget is late once again,” Ernst (R-Iowa) said in a statement obtained by The Post. “If the President is going to be allowed the opportunity to address Congress and the entire nation, he should actually have a plan in place.”

    It'll die in the Senate , but it just shows that they have absolutely nothing to offer here , nothing at all.



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    #30850
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,596 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728196#Comment_121728196

    "Send Us Budget Materials & International Tactics In Time (SUBMIT IT) Act"

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    #30851
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728257#Comment_121728257

    That one is particularly dumb , but they all do that - Giving their bills these stupid acronyms, it's just stupid.

    It's all just further evidence that none of them are actually serious - It's all just a series of "made for TV" moments.

    I'll give my bill a silly name and I'll bring bill-boards and giant photos (or snowballs!!!) on to the floor of the House/Senate so that I get a 30s slot on the TV news this evening.

    Because that's what matters , not doing the job I was elected to do , no - Getting on TV is what matters.



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    #30852
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,547 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Just saw the amzing picture where Trump say he looks like Elvis so if and when he loses the election he can get a gig in Vegas as an Elvis impersonator.



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    #30853
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,447 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728985#Comment_121728985

    One comment:

    At least Elvis did his military service.



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    #30854
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,389 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728985#Comment_121728985

    Sure why not he spent 4 years impersonating a president



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    #30855
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,389 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    'Mad Dog' Mattis, worked as an advisor to the UAE before he returned to public service in the Trump admin in 2017. The Pentagon reportedly fought to conceal this from the public. The Post only recently learned of it. Mattis did not include this on any of his ethics disclosures, there was vigorous effort to keep this knowledge from the public.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/02/06/mattis-advised-uae-yemen-war/
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    #30856
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1754883119717462337?s=20

    It's about damn time....



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    #30857
    z80CPU
    Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Still some semblance of sanity in US politics

    Donald Trump is NOT immune from prosecution because of presidential role

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68026175



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    #30858
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,389 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    Still gonna drag this up to SCOTUS, who, being captured, will gladly deliberate over it...

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    #30859
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729927#Comment_121729927

    More bad news for the ultimate con-man. Hopefully the bad news keeps on rolling. This guy needs to be consigned to the history books ASAP.



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    #30860
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    So much winning.



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    #30861
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    And most importantly - It was a unanimous ruling.

    That makes it much much harder for the Supreme Court to over-rule.

    They have no dissent to use as a leverage to over-turn..



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    #30862
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,313 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The upcoming Truth Social rant will write itself.

    I'd speculate the word "swamp" being used but I Doubt I'd get odds on something that certain.



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    #30863
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,346 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I thought I saw somewhere that the Supreme Court is likely to refuse to take it?



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    #30864
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,691 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    Let's see what Chuckle Fúck's response to the consequences of his own actions will be this time

    https://on.ft.com/3w2OaOl

    The US has been swirling around an inflection point for 8yrs now. It's longest dalliance yet with authoritarianism since the highpoint of Norman Rockefeller and other groups such as American Bund.

    In 2020, the centre and the system held. If the GOP had a modicum of testicular fortitude in the Senate? Trump would have been dealt with politically at least, at his 2nd impeachment.

    They punted, claimed that the criminal court is where it should be dealt with. Now that the courts are cleared to pursue criminal actions against the Cheeto coloured lard arse? I fully expect the party of law and order to start railing against the courts, their legitimacy and their "politicisation".

    As I said way back in 2020, if the USA as a democratic state, and as the great experiment in democracy is to mean anything? It must surely be that no man is above the law! That despite wealth buying many a different class of justice, that justice itself, must prevail!



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    #30865
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,596 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think if he appeals it to the Supreme Court, he should let Alina Habba take the lead on it. Go on, give her another try! I'm sure she'll do a great job this time, just got unlucky in the last one.



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    #30866
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729981#Comment_121729981

    Spare a thought for his caps lock.



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    #30867
    amandstu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭amandstu


    A pity we can't have immunity from his Presidency :-(

    I see Haley is asking for Secret Service protection now.

    Don't get too close to DJT's rear end and she may survive ,hopefully.



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    #30868
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121730017#Comment_121730017

    and his ketchup bottles....



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    #30869
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729965#Comment_121729965

    I read there's a stay until the 12th of February?

    The case has been adjourned from the March date, but if SCOTUS deny cert, then it leaves the case open to proceed in April. Plenty of time to get a conviction by November....


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    #30870
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,435 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121730007#Comment_121730007

    There is no actual reason the SC should be looking at it.

    Generally they are there to rule on dissenting judgements, to make decisions in places where two parties have interpreted law in different ways. They are not really supposed to be a place to go just because the loser didn't like the verdict.

    There is no dissenting verdict in this case, no two points of law to be decided between. Trump said he was immune just because he thinks he should be, he didn't offer any law that gave him the right to declare that. When asked the question a court said that clearly he shouldn't be.

    In a functioning state the SC wouldn't touch this with a bargepole.



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    #30871
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121730007#Comment_121730007

    The unanimous ruling from DC certainly gives them an easier path to do that now.

    There's no ambiguity to be reviewed/challenged so makes it much harder for Team Trump to get an appeal.

    They can't appeal just because they don't like the result , they have to find a point of law to argue and now that they don't have a minority dissent to use as leverage that becomes much much harder.



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