Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Don't flip a question back at me cuz, answer the reasonable and logical question I asked you first. That's how civilization works. What's the limit? You don't seem to want to answer that particular question for some reason, so, ergo, you have no limit. You are under the impression a small island with limited resources has total unlimited capacity to literally take an unlimited influx of numbers onto its tiny landmass, yes?

Nonsense . Healthcare workers from abroad are holding our health service together . I know because I have worked with excellent healthcare staff from all over the world here . Nothing to do with SD . Thank you and rock off there now .

And yes our young people have better options no dispute there . But they are not leaving because " Ireland is Full " or whatever made up nonsense you parrot.

They are leaving because they have qualifications, are well educated and have choices , and they choose the sun, a better standard of living and travel.

Education ..One of the single most success stories over the last generation which is conveniently left out of any discussion here . Kudos our education system and even better now the last few years than ever !

So next you say Housing .. our dearly loved young people are all finding those same issues abroad .They are all paying through the nose all over the world for rental housing and will be a long time citizens elsewhere before they have a sniff of an option to buy an affordable house abroad...sorta like here?

Deluded again.

Full Employment here . Those jobs that you say" drive down wages " attract migrants or young people and have one of the highest minimum wages in the OECD ...how awful for them to be having to take those jobs , that we need filled to keep our shops and cafes and factories going .

Are you so up there that you have never been glad of a job never mind a minimum wage job . Parttime or antisocial hours . Probably , one of the new Irish too up themselves to get a job cleaning or dishwashing to have enough money to pay the rent or bills or safe for a holiday .

And these people are the people you would prevent even having the right to do that under the guise of protecting migrants welfare 🙄..is it not better than languishing in direct provision dependant on handouts.

Fair dues to those working there way. I applaud them .

As for rents , so you ARE against those legitimately working here and finding their own accomodation ? Good to see that you are finally being honest there .

Main problem with rent in this country is I government inaction on rent caps , vulture funds and landlords and lifting the eviction ban . But oh no it's the recently arrived scapegoats that get the blame.

It is Hypocritical to say" Ireland is Full "and then on the other hand " oh we can't have you working low paid jobs .." off home on the boat/ plane with you now," or " back to the accomodation where we will protest at ye being put up at our expense " .

Economic migrants days are numbered here niw , but you know what, I'd prefer those coming to look for and work for a better life than all the wastrels on numerous benefits sitting on their behinds here and think themselves too good to do a " low paid job " to make their own way in the world .

We have more than our fair share of them and long before any asylum seekers touched our shore .

If... if ...the sky was purple and the fields blue !

However noted and agreed .

that doesnt explain the 35% who are open to voting for anti-immigrant politicans in the latest poll

where are the extra 15k houses for asylum seekers (economic migrants) every single year on top of our existing housing needs going to magically come from - 50% of voters are concerned about housing here for very good reason - adding an extra 150,000 (asylum seekers/economic migrants who knows) in 10 years to the already volatile mix is a receipe for disaster .. we need tons of spare accommodation and additional planned resources before we import further problems

Why you calling me cuz??

Anyway, no matter what I say you will come up with reasons why Ireland is so completely different to them!

But I suppose, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria. for a start

We definitely need immigrants to fill certain jobs but thats because there is never any real investment put into tackling the critical skills list. We know what jobs are essential and what professions we have too few of but there is never any plan put in place to tackle these holes in the labour market.

For example lets take something like bus drivers which the department of enterprise didn't add to the critical skills list but made 1,500 non-EU employment permits available for last year, theres a massive barrier to entry for Irish applicants because in order to apply to be a driver for Dublin bus you have to already have your class B driving licence which at a minimum is €810 if you manage to learn in 12 lessons and not need any other driving practice. In reality for most people its several thousand euro and you need someone whos willing to let you get insured on their car and supervise you to drive. I would be interested to see how many people would take up the option of a loan for driving lessons and insurance to get their class B licence with the proviso that they would get the debt suspended and then forgiven if they took up employment with Dublin Bus and stayed for 5 years.

Limited resources??

Irish people have the 6th highest annual income per person on the planet.

It is a small island - that is thinly populated, lots and lots of space.

There were some mentions about 'non-Irish' people on the housing list.

The reason for the housing crisis is the greed of rich people, and a government that takes care exclusively of the rich. The housing crisis has nothing whatsoever to do with immigrants. NOTHING.

If you throw every single immigrant out of the country, this will change nothing about the current insane rent prices. Does anyone seriously believe that fewer immigrants in Ireland would mean that rent prices in Dublin will suddenly become reasonable? How naive can one get...

Source for 6th highest nnual income?

If you look at our AIC, it's not great. We are not as rich as we think.

More of this needed. Good post.

Where is Enterprise and Jobs Minister hiding.

Yes I do. We should also be reducing non eu inbound legal migration to sectors where people are not critically needed considering the scale of the multiple crisis. Ideally even free movement from eu countries should be curtailed but we are in the EU I suppose.

There is undoubtedly an issue with population control, there’s no if about it. The country cannot support the population currently in it across multiple areas of society. Quality of life is reducing for everyone in the country in one way or another, while immigration and even illigal immigration into the country is a small part of the problem it is a problem all the same.

Nicely ignoring the part of our nations history where single mothers in Ireland left to go to Britain because they would be treated better by social services there.

Generations of Irish children supported by the British system

Why do you think people would be surprised.

Sinn Fein are dropping in the polls because of their stance on immigration and their love of Palestine.

It is a scary possibility that could happen which is why people like myself have changed my mind on voting for them and I can't see them getting into goverment.

It's a bit like the analogy of the lad who turns up every odd day on social media to tell us the far right are everywhere in ireland.

While then saying he can't wait to laugh at everyone when the far right do terrible in the elections.

While most people on social media tell him their is no large far right in ireland and they will do terrible.

It's very strange.

No of course not, I didn't say they were far right.