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    #7712
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121695902#Comment_121695902

    If anything, I've seen the opposite occurring, India are becoming more expensive in comparison to Europe, main issue these days is visa availability so it's strategic to have centers in India/China but knowing there will be a high turnover of staff.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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    #7713
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,648 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121695075#Comment_121695075

    Cobblers.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7714
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121724256#Comment_121724256

    Indeed. The tech forums I'm on with jobs/employment channels? 95% of job postings are blended or remote. Has it right in the subject line, usually.



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    #7715
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭baldbear


    I am working with a US company & have been working 1 day a week in the office the last 18 months.

    Looks like we are been pushed to 3 days a week back in the office. News will be hitting us in the next week I'm guessing. Employees in the US been threatened that their performance reviews will be affected.



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    #7716
    Young_gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Young_gunner


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732273#Comment_121732273

    what's the logic of the change?



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    #7717
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    We've been 3&2 since the end of the pandemic. No talk of changing so far. I work for a large US Investment bank.

    Id be happier with 2&3 but overall I see some benefits of office time.



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    #7718
    moycullen14
    Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732674#Comment_121732674

    There doesn't have to be any logic. It's a power and control thing. If the company want you back, you have two choices.... They don't have to justify their decision.

    It may be good, it may be bad but either way, it's the companies call.

    Interesting that the 'alpha' tech employers - Google, Meta, Apple - want people back and are in a position to enforce it. Other companies look at these boys and thing 'If Apple, etc. think it's a good idea.....'

    Smaller companies (or more enlightened ones) may have to take a different view.



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    #7719
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭baldbear


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732674#Comment_121732674

    For US employees I've heard about "real estate strategy for us office space." And a new performance goal brought in around the whole office work.

    No reason given to us locally only we are expected in office 3 days a week.

    All stick approach now. If we don't like it tough is what I'm thinking.

    We can ask questions,give feedback but at the end of the day it is meaningless. The top brass have decided 2024 is the year we are forced back .



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    #7720
    Gwen Tall Dart
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gwen Tall Dart


    The smaller companies invested in less infrastructure so wfh suits them just fine. The Big Tech have Big Buildibfs that they want filled with people to justify the lights being on. Buildings tend to deteriorate if not kept “living”, that would be part of their logic, also there’s more complicated hierarchies and they like to keep more of a controlling eye on people working for them.



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    #7721
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    My partner is a contractor, was fully WFH. The company (American) decided two days in the office was now mandatory. Their boss was a little "wait, what?" when they left the office at 5:30 yesterday. "I've a 90 minute commute still to do," shrugged and left. Didn't care it was month end. Previous months, they'd have been working until 8 or 8:30 for a few days around month end. Wish I'd been there to see it.

    (I know that wouldn't work for everyone, but they're in the lucky position of not wanting to renew the contract.)



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    #7722
    Spudman_20000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732674#Comment_121732674

    If a company can't give a logical explanation as to why they need people back in the office, then "engineered attrition" would be my guess:

    https://www.thehrdirector.com/features/future-of-work/engineered-attrition-latest-tactic-get-rid-employees/




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    #7723
    Craggy Jon
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Craggy Jon


    I am a Civil Servant, living on the outskirts of Trim & working in a large City Centre office. My nearest bus/train link to Dublin is a 25 minute drive. Monday, Wednesday & Thursday working from home. Last Tuesday, I left home at 06.45. I arrived in my office at 10.08. Snarl-ups on M50 caused chaos on all entry routes to City Centre. I arrived into my office, hungry, dying for a pee & totally stressed out. I needed coffee. I spent my first half hour in the canteen, moaning to whoever woukd listen to me, about my commute. Switched on my computer abour 10.50 & got started on my day. Then I met colleagues for lunch- that took about an hour - and back to work till 18.30, when it too me another hour & 45 minutes to get home, exhausted; drained and deflated

    Compare with Wednesday. Set alarm clock for 08.50. Logged in and working from home at 09.00. No distractions. No canteen breaks. No long gossipy lunches, no hideous traffic either coming from or going to work. Worked solidly till 13.00, half hour lunch (when I attended to some domestic chores) & knocked off at 17.30.

    it goes without saying that ALL of my work is doable remotely. Why in the name of all that’s holy can’t my line managers see they are getting SO much more bang for their buck by allowing me to work from home?

    For the record - Dublin traffic on Fridays is manageable. I quite like going into the office on Fridays.



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    #7724
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121733161#Comment_121733161

    I know a large tech company with an office in Galway that came to the end of their long term lease last summer. They decided not to renew the lease and agreed with the employees to go 100% WFH. They had to update the contracts and they did offer to pay for serviced desks in those hubs if employees wanted. Saved the company a fortune. Everyone happy.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #7725
    Zayd Wide Victor
    Posts: 0 ✭✭ Zayd Wide Victor


    Back to the office now 3 days a week and it's grand.



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    #7726
    moycullen14
    Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    This thread went very quiet. How are people finding WFH now? Are companies still supportive. Must say I'm seeing a trend to get people back to office. Fully remote jobs (IT) seem very thin on the ground. 2-3 daqys in the office seems like them norm now.



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    #7727
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,023 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300939#Comment_122300939

    a lot of larger companys that were more flexible are now mandating 3 days a week in the office (PWC for one for example)



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    #7728
    miamee
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I'm still wfh full-time as the company I work for are on the other side of the country from me. This was the case when they hired me, so no chance of them telling me I have to come back to the office. I have never worked in their office full-time. However being the only remote employee is having it's drawbacks with this particular company. The CEO is very much an in-person person and I get left out of a lot of things that should be communicated to all staff but I get the felling is just passed around the office as the team is small. As a result, I am looking to move to either a fully remote or remote first company or to a more local hybrid position.



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    #7729
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    There was a push to get people back into the office but they gave up. I go in about once a month although I haven't been in since March.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #7730
    jonnreeks
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭jonnreeks


    Hi,

    I have the option of a Blended Working Policy. It's described as a system that combines working from the employee's work premises and working remotely up to a maximum of two days. It's to provide employees with a dynamic and balanced employment experience. As I am getting near pensionable status I think this could be a perfect option as I intend to continue working beyond the 66 years. I would definitely consider this alternative if my position fulfills the eligibility criteria.

    Is anyone currently part of this scheme and is able to offer their experience of same.

    N



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    #7731
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,397 ✭✭✭This is it


    I'm still fully remote. We can go in if we want, I normally go twice a month to see colleagues, go for lunch etc. but no compulsory attendance yet.



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    #7732
    moycullen14
    Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    Currently starting to job hunt. I guess the mandated in-office time will be greater that the actual? You can't tell someone at interview that they must be in 2 days a week and then change it to 3 or 4? What are peoples experience of the actual vs official figures?



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    #7733
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 20,023 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301253#Comment_122301253

    of course you can, unless your contract is very specific on this (which most wont be)



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    #7734
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,148 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301069#Comment_122301069

    Out of curiousity, why do you plan to continue working after 66? I am having the same thoughts myself. I don't know how well I would handle a sudden stop.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #7735
    Sono
    Registered Users Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Sono


    1 day a week in the office and hopefully does not increase, love being at home and have never missed the office, the 1 day in there is plenty.



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    #7736
    Sunny Disposition
    Registered Users Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Blended working is where it has ended up now. Very few people doing five days in an office, not that many 100% remote.

    My workers are 100% remote, I am surprised more people haven't gone for this option, but I presume more will as leases end. The saving is huge.



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    #7737
    jonnreeks
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭jonnreeks


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301322#Comment_122301322

    When you reach 65, doesn't the legislation allow you to continue working to 66 when you are entitled to your state pension. Also there is new flexible option of staying at work until 70 years of age availing of the new flexible pension system. Obviously all these option are related to your working circumstances.



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    #7738
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,648 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Unless you're a public servant, there's nothing stopping you from drawing down your contributory OAP and continuing to work

    You can delay the drawdown until 70 and get a bit more, but probably not worth it for most people.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7739
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,606 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301329#Comment_122301329

    Same for me. It is by far my least productive day, lots of distractions, 2 hours wasted commuting as well.



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    #7740
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,450 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    IMG_7594.jpeg

    A bit of humour to brighten things up.

    I recently left a job that mandated a one day return. As with others, easily the least productive day of the week by some stretch, spent a lot of the day with my headphones in, if I had a meeting I had to search for an empty meeting room or battle with someone who “tried” to book it.

    The reasons given were to create connection, if anything it drove me out, so maybe it worked? 😂



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    #7741
    CKError
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭CKError


    Totally agree with the mixed feelings about working from home. I love the flexibility, but it does blur the lines between work and personal time. My company started providing stipends for home office setups, which helps. But yeah, it’s not for everyone. Some of my colleagues miss the office banter and structure. It’ll be interesting to see how many companies stick with remote work after all this.



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