The accelerating fall in Sinn Féin support

As my OH would say, build a bridge and get over it. Yes, a single person on an average income should be able to afford decent accommodation. That does not equate to a house.

The problem can either be dealt with now or kicked 20/30/40 years down the line when we're faced with an increasing number of pensioners who can't afford to rent their homes anymore. What then? The government of the day can either let them face homelessness (not gonna happen) or pony up a fortune to house them. There won't be any building of bridges.

You are 100% right about SF

I remember a few years ago, CA had a lot of SF supporters, crowing about how SF is going to lead to 'real' change.

But there was never, ever any discussion on policy. It was all personal attacks against the likes of Maria Bailey, Leo Varadkar, McEntee, Pascal or Simon Harris. Childish banal stuff, day in and day out, playing the man, never the man, and never a policy discussion.

We have a long-running SF thread, where all the SF supporters eventually got banned because all they wanted to do, in the SF thread was talk about FG or something else, other than SF.

That tells a lot about them.

They want to talk about how bad everything is or how crap things are rather than promote their own news ideas, policies or initiatives. The latter never happened.

This is true of their supporters and true of the leadership of the party. Great at telling you whats wrong, but won't tell you how to fix it.

For tricky stuff, they just sat on the fence, which worked for a time. But now, its coming back at them.

The title of this thread is a bit well ott, they are still most likeable going to be the largest party in the country at the end of the next election and by a good margin. If they dont form a government which they might not they will still wag the dog. They are a serious force now and have been for the last 4 years. They aren't going away you know no matter what the auld guard wish for

They wont wag anything if they arent in power.

And in fact, their endless moaning will just become white noise over the next 5 years.

SF is doing well, made history in the north, getting into the good books of many. Some like to focus on the bad (though which I call good) news with all the right wingers inherited from FG falling off now theres a handful of extreme groups to vote for. Water finds its level as they say, and thats what SF's support us currently doing. It still is miles ahead of the opposition. They'll do better with a support who understands what the party is about in regards their social outlook rather than people who think ireland is for the irish (whatever that actually means I do not know). Glad to see that kind of support fecking off.

I cannot for the life of me see any way that my life will not get worse than it is under SF.

I want it to get better or at least not get worse. I used to think SF had something, now I realize its just hot air and big mouths that they have. There is nothing to them. And that would be very dangerous to let them have any sort of power, because you never know what their wrecking ball would hit as they faff around trying to make an impression.

Their fox hunting stance in NI? Laughably fox hunting is the most west Brit thing the planters left behind but they didn't vote against it.🤫

I'd say it's their goo goo economics. Building fantasy houses in a labour market that is at full capacity.

From the polling I'm not seeing a significant transfer to other established parties.

The next election could well be the breakthrough of some very nasty politics.

In any profession or workplace, you try out the new lad at the lower levels, see how it goes, see how he works out, does he have the skills, does he have the cop-on, and if it doesn't work at those levels, you throw him out, if it does work at those levels, you give him a chance at the higher levels.

Sinn Fein have failed at local council level, they have also failed in Stormont, why would anyone give them a chance at a higher level like the Dail?

Agree with what your saying here, but the fact Mary Lou standing with the north of Ireland first minster at every photo chance and coming out with now the time is right for a united ireland is showing this is the number one priority and not the problems facing the government of the day as you have stated, as for the independent vote increasing, this will happen in rural Ireland big time as people in rural areas are being left behind and the government are not interested and see Dublin as the real power in voting. Every thing doesn’t revolve around Dublin and the farming community is fed up on all the red tape and climate change being forced upon the country side. And then you have Eamon cabbage head dictatorship on what people need to do car pooling, bike lanes, etc and he and his cronies flying everywhere first class.

...yup, very possible there will be another ffg government, and absolute mayhem external to that, with a rapid rise of the extremes, should be fun!

O Reilly seems to have gone to ground since the whole immigration topic has started to heat up, more often than not when its going to be up for discussion its Rose Conway Walsh or Martin Kenny in the hot seat.

Actually if the shinners do get in next time I'd like to see O Reilly get either Health, Housing or Integration.

If you want a United Ireland Sinn Fein are the worst party to support, they have no plan on a United Ireland. They have no ability to work with any party either side of the border. They spend the majority of the time bickering with every party who comes near them.

To get a United Ireland the only way is to build bridges across all the communities in Northern Ireland and the Republic. The cross border projects that are happening now is a step towards that.

IN 100 years if left to Sinn Fein they will still be doing a lot of talking with nothing to back it up and bickering with all the parties like they currently do.

Don’t know how that statement aligns with them throwing some non-PA aligned Palestinians from the meeting this week. The visit to the White House and inviting the PA aligned ambassador to the meeting is not what Hamas or most Gazans would want.

Your right they don't have any plan but just keep on banging on about it etc no other parties are interested in a united Ireland so maybe it may never happen, also our welfare payments would drop as well adding an extra 2 million so, I don't under the powers powersharing it's mostly the UK that look after northern Ireland or does any money from Dublin go up there as well

i just watched that interview. Who was supporting Hamas or who do you say the 'more than a few' refers to? She spoke correctly. You need dialogue for peace and SF have constantly condemned the Hamas Oct attack.

It's nonsense, but a lot of nonsense posted for years now from Sinn Fein supporters, this is just the latest

This was my post you are referring to. Sinn fein online supporters group? Can you explain that please? I'm a member/supporter of Sinn Fein. Im not on any 'online supporters group', so "i guess" you should stop making stuff up so that you can then reply to yourself.

Otherwise yeah, sure dont listen to a shinner when you talking about shinner stuff. get your head out of the sand. the change is happening.

considering how SFs supported exploded, shedding of unwanted voters is always a good thing. SF have never been stupid enough to blame immigrants for issues caused by the government and people who think like that are too far removed from what SF is about. SF has a much more intellectual vote than many seem to think. they arent robots, doing what they're told but they arent xenophobes either. Far from it. All these 'bring back the IRA' shite you see on TT etc just makes me laugh. the IRA would tell them to feck off.