Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

It is war, the Palestinians started the war and they could end it anytime by releasing the hostages. Why don't the Palestinians want to stop the war?

Are those figures according to Hamas? Hamas 'figures' are about as reliable as those of Putin. Also, they will naturally include all of the Palestinians murdered by Hamas, they kill anyone even suspected of collaborating with Israel or the US, plus all the people their thousands of homemade rockets sometimes fall short and land on. They killed c. 500 Palestinians in the Al-Ahli hospital alone when it was hit by a Palestinian rocket. It is unclear how anyone could still claim to believe everything Hamas says? Do you really believe everything Hamas says? Like inside your human brain, right now? Seriously?

They don't just kill Jews. They kill Christians, atheists, gay people, even Muslims who practice a slightly different type of Islam. And we know that even their own women have not exactly fared well for the last few hundred years. Radical Islamists do not appear to be able to live in peace with anyone, anywhere in the world, even in fully Islamic places.

And by hiding among Gazan refugees and ordering them not to leave an area after Israel has just warned them it is about to be targeted, they are effectively killing them too. The Palestinian terrorists even hide in hospitals killing their own injured women and children. All just for some PR that will be spouted by useful ideologues like you, who know the figures cannot possibly be true. Do you still believe everything that Hamas, a literal death cult, tells you?

How very unusual.

When will the UK stop being the USAs bitch, its embarrassing. I haven't yet seen it said in the media, but someone needs to start asking the question, 'can the USA and possibly UK be help accountable for the genocide by Israel' this needs to be highlighted to put pressure on these two.

It was not our example.

A poster made a clumsy comment about how "Israel is worse than the Nazi's". Which of course is preposterous.

We know that in the first 6-8 weeks of the Invasion of Poland, the Nazis killed many more civilians, to draw some loose comparison. But that wasn't the end of it.

When the war was over, Poland lost approx 6 million people, almost 1 in 5 Poles died in 6 years of war.

And this was just in Poland....

Sadly, probably not. This is the other side of the same stupid coin where people equate Palestine=Hamas.

As I have said MANY times before when you have tried to play this card.

Instead of attacking the source why not instead discuss the content?

Biden is on to them. They are Israels agent provocoateurs, used to stir trouble when a reaction is wanted to take action against:

Because the source IS your tweet.

We have no idea where that video comes from, if it legit, if it is altered, if its taken out of context, nor verified.

Never mind the accusation of the video that are just left there hanging with no verification in of itself...

At the end of the day, you are happy to spam this thread with Tweets from accounts that are known for spreading misinformation and disinformation. That is what you are doing at the end of the day.

Did you even watch the video? It's in English so it's not hard to understand, are you saying we shouldn't retweet anything if you don't like the source no matter the content?

I'll post what I want from where I want, if you haven't the respect to discuss the content then feel free to put me on ignore, we all see what your agenda is when you choose to attack the source.

The Gaza Ministry of Health figures are accurate and have ben recognised as such by the likes of the UN.

Every Palestinian in Gaza is given an "identification number" by the Israelis when they are born. It is these Israeli numbers that are used to generate those killed in Gaza. They only report confirmed dead people.

There are suspected to be at least 7000 civilians buried under the rubble, shredded by 2000lb bombs or burned beyond recognition by white phosphorous. However, thee are not reported as they cannot be confirmed as dead.

Presumably, the infants found decomposing in ICU because they could not be evacuated, didn't even get their Israeli tags.

A case is being prepared:

Pot, kettle, black.

The same Palestinians who attacked Israel with the help of Arabs no less than 3 times (And lost)?

The same Palestinians who are on their 3rd Intifada?

The same Palestinians who divert precious resources and launch thousands of rockets into Israel?

The same Palestinians who blew themselves up in cafes and buses?

The same Palestinians whose leaders are billionaires according to Forbes?

The same Palestinians who launched the October 7th attack, that deliberately targeted civilians, women and children?

etc..

etc....

At the end of the day, this is a long drawn-out conflict and the main takeaway is that the Palestinians have been on a losing streak because of choices they have made.

Go back to Arafat and examine what he was offered by Clinton. He turned it down and led his people down the rabbit hole of destruction we see today.

I remember when Sharon was made PM, the Palestinians were dancing on the streets because they thought he would bring the fight to the West Bank and like the good brainwashed people they were, they thought they would push them back, and finally 'win' their freedom through violence... with the help of the international community of course...

That was 25 years ago, how did that turn out?

I feel for the average Palestinian, I really do, but an objective look at history shows us that they have been led astray by their leaders who are corrupt morally and intellectually. Too often they have gone back to the "Well, let's just lob some more rockets at them" tactic, with no end to the issues.

When the dust settles on this latest phase of this conflict and it will, I hope that Hamas will be eradicated as a force in Gaza and something better, more moderate comes up from the ashes. I also hope Bibi will get off the stage and that the Israeli public reflect and revise what they need to do in order to restore peace in the Levant. But it can't be all on their heads either. The wider Arab world and Palestinians need to stop the cycle of hate, overt anti-semitism and revenge violence that has led to this point.

Again, instead of attacking the source why don't you try and reumfute the evidence?

We had this discussion last week when you tried to play this card, no matter how many times it was pointed out to you that the sourcer was just retweeting a video from someone else you flatly refused to discuss the content and continued to attack the source.

You do this with any evidence posted, you either attack the source or just ignore any evidence when you can't attack the source.

Fair enough.

The loose plan and intelligence were gathered, but it was dismissed by the Israelis as they thought the plans were far too ambitious and beyond the operational scope of Hamas.

They were wrong on both counts.