"Green" policies are destroying this country

Traffic doesnt evaporate.

There may be fewer journeys if people get annoyed sitting in traffic. But if those journeys have to be made, they will still happen.

Nothing short of a congestion charge or genuine car blockades will ease central Dublins traffic, outside of a proper metro system that is.

I gave you a hypothetical example to explain how improved journey time, as a result of improved bus priority, could increase service frequency with the same amount of buses and drivers. You've either chosen to ignore that or you're not intellectually equipped to understand it, either way not my problem, you have the information now, as requested.

https://www.monorails.org/tMspages/MonoVs.html

Another thing Howiya ( & this I guess will be the outcome ) eventually thanks to Ryan’s folly, businesses will be moving out of the city centre or shutting down, there won’t be any need for these extra busses, as there will be f’all people wanting to get to the city centre.

Lol OK, still no

Any evidence of this? Transport models predict increasing number of trips to thw centre and that's what was seen in cities that took on similar measures, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo etc.

What information? Where is the announcement re extra bus services? Even now you are saying "could increase service frequency". Could is a maybe. Are they or are they not increasing bus services directly as a result of these changes? The answer is no.

Firstly, you don't know where I live. But I can tell you my car is parked on the street, I've no back garden, no possibility to have a car charger, opening the door lands me on the footpath and from my window here I can see a few tree tops over the houses cross the road. Also, there's no national PT only the local link service which only passes twice in the morning, and twice in the evening. I definitely have to have a car - 100%.

Everyone in Dublin has to pay high rent because demand out strips supply (unless you live in one of the many deprived shitholes overrun by wasters). Despite the protestations of all, that rent is being paid. If you want to live in Dublin, you gotta pay higher prices for that. It's a balls, and it shouldn't be like that, but it is the way now and noone has been able to offer up a solution to change it. Cars are and can be expensive to run, but aren't unaffordable. Plenty of cheap cars, with cheap tax and if you go the EV route, you have cheaper driving too.

Traffic will reduce if there is a viable alternative or the demand for the journey is removed.

These bus changes achieve neither, in any meaningful way.

I would be very confident thst post implementation of these bus gates, Dublin will still rank very poorly in terms of city centre car congestion.

That will be the evidence of whom is right and whom is wrong here.

Paris and London have metro populations of 12 million each vs 2 million in Dublin.

Imagine what their traffic would be like if they both closed their undergrounds...

An Underground and/or congestion charge is the only way to significantly reduce car traffic inside the canals.

Anything else is just window dressing.

I have a bike for leisure purposes, but hasn't been used in a while. Neither am I looking for a cheaper option. And no one, rightly is stopping me nor am I complaining about anyone doing so. Overall, your reply is irrelevant to anything I've said.

On the possible bus frequency changes, are there tenders out or contracts signed for more buses? Hopefully there is.

I don't agree that traffic volumes will drop significantly if the changes come in. I'd be more in the camp that other routes will get busier. My thinking being that if the buses that run today aren't being used by motorists, why would there be a sudden switch to them because cars are no longer permitted in a section of the city? Wouldn't those drivers be already using buses to avoid the car congestion?

Yes there's more buses on the way. "More in the camp that other routes will get busier" so the wrong camp then according to all local and international research on the topic. The adjacent routes are already at max link capacity so they can't get busier.

why would motorists switch mode? Because the bus will become a faster option for many journeys as a result and cycling will become safer and a much faster option for many journeys.

Traffic can always increase. You can model anything. It doesnt result in a universally accepted outcome.

As I said previously, the proof is in the pudding and I am very confident that the bus gates will not reduce the traffic volumes significantly through the city centre.

I know plenty of car drivers in Dublin. Not a single one of them has any intention of not using the car as they all have small kids and use it to ferry them around. Ergo, they use it to goto work.

A lot make cross city journeys from outside the canals(dont travel in a straight line into the city centre) which are journeys that are just not suitable for buses, especially on roads that are 90% shared with the same cars they could be driving.

The bus gates might reduce the road share to 88%. Big deal. It aint going to add 20 mins to an average car journey.

And even if it did, it wouldnt stop them driving.

I'm now hearing that DART+ SW will not require a oral hearing, perhaps due to relative lack of concerns. DART+ W are expecting to be granted their railway order this month. Separately metrolink hearing will get going on the 19th. We may still see contract awards and some prep works before the end of the year on all 3 rail projects which is massive for Dublin, and Ireland.

It looks like it's going to be a very successful year for green policies which prioritised public transport infrastructure over building more roads and ultimately prioritised people over the oil and automotive industries.

The all island rail strategy 2050 covers this but is more aspirational and contains no funded projects as of yet.

Walking and cycling are the core focus of the current transport policy. And yes it is envisaged that a greater number of people will opt for bike than car commuting

So ye think that a load of trains and busses traversing the country half full is going to save the planet.