Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Just watched a video of children crying with hunger on Instagram and MSF workers pleading for food to be allowed in. Its harrowing. Something needs to be done to avert a much larger death toll.

Indeed - the irony is palpable...

well if as the example used by the poster as Nazi bad behavior of 200k civilians from a population of 35million were killed by Nazis in the invasion of Poland in 1939 then Israel are worse for killing 30k of a 2.1 million population in Gaza (if we assume at 14k of 30k in Gaza were civilians). I dont believe the IDF are as bad as the Nazis but I could see how the numbers dont help their case that they care about civilian life.

I only compared the numbers that were given.

Israel is certainly not being "careful" about protecting civilian lives and have been pulled up on it many many Nations. And as the ICJ ruled, the SA case calling out Israeli Genocide is plausible to the extent the ICJ ruled Israel has to comply with 6 preliminary measures.

yes that's correct.

That is who they are trying to eradicate from the Middle East. For starters. That is why they started this war and have promised to do it again.

The Palestinian leadership are open and honest about this, as opposed to their useful idiot supporters in the West.

Don't you mean the Israeli's?

Has everyone already forgotten about Ukraine?

You brought your personal story into play here. All I am saying is that you have made a good case for the elimination of Hamas, an organisation whose only aim is Genocide and Jihadist violence against Jews. That is all.

More QNN propoganda?

You do know that they have been banned from multiple social media platforms for their history of misinformation and disinformation, yet you are OK with this?

Ironic that Hamas was created by Mossad. Israeli intelligence knew about the planned attacks at least 12 months prior to them happeneing. If anyone felt a sense of disbelief that Israeli intelligence didn't know about this, then they were right to do so.

Prior to the attack Israel had been staging aggressive raids into Gaza, killing hundreds, including scores of children. Some journalists even asked why:

It's almost as if they were deliberately provoking a response, got what they wanted and suppressed the intelligence about it so they could then over-react and clean out the Palestinians en-masse.

They really are a nation of cunning butchers. Prior to current events the death ratio was 18:1, that is Israelis killed 18 palestinians for each of their own who died. It's going to be far worse when next the numbers are tallied.

A deal that sees Sinwar exiled is looking more likely. Well this is assuming the IDF don't get to him first.

I made a case as to why the Palestinians react to being bullied for 75 years by the Israelis and turned your own narrative on its head. That is all.

I see you're still peddling your factually incorrect ICJ material too which is remarkable given the preaching about "misinformation". The ICJ only made findings against Israel as regards genocide:

1. For Israel to take "all measures" to prevent acts of genocide from taking place - FAIL
2. To ensure the IDF does not engage in any acts of genocide - FAIL
3. To prevent and punish public incitement to genocide, including by government and military officials - FAIL
4. To enable basic services and humanitarian aid to reach Gazan civilians - FAIL
5. To preserve evidence related to violations of Genocide Convention - TBD
6. To submit a report to the ICJ within one month on all measures taken - TBD

• Genocide
• 2000lb dumb bombs
• White phosphorous
• 260 infants less than 1 year old murdered
• 90 children killed daily - every single day since 7th October
• Sniping nuns, civilians carrying white flags and sheep
• Refusing water, food, fuel and medical aid
• Looting, stealing and rifling through knicker drawers
• Leaving infants to decompose in an ICU unit
• Bulldozing cemeteries
• Bombing ambulances
• Razing universities, schools and places of worship
• Destroying hospitals
• Zaka filming PR videos on Oct 7th to raise funds
• Deliberately Targeting children and "safe areas"

Id like to see real actual evidence of such an accusation, and not some random guy with a Twitter account or podcast.

Mossad are ruthless and indifferent to the killing of non Israelis, but I have a hard time believing they would sit on their hands and allow Israelis be killed en masse. Everything they do , whether you agree with their actions or not, is done with the mindset of protecting Israelis. I think they were asleep on the job as it were. Intelligence agencies are not infallible, they get it wrong sometimes. Dief kept the planning of this operation to a tight circle. The US has assessed that even the Iranians didn't have foreknowledge of what was going to happen. It's possible that at some point information was dismissed that something might be up due to complacency . I don't buy either that Bibi as ruthless and cunning as he is would have wanted these attacks to occur. He would surely know it would destroy his reputation as "Mr Security".