USA 2024 presidential election

The effect of a VP on the ticket is minimal. Moreso with Trump at the top of the ticket. The state they're from is irrelevant.

As for 2028. He'll think that he'll somehow be able to run again - after all, this is a man who thought that he'd be able to stay in office after losing an election. As such he'll pick someone who poses absolutely no threat to him and who kisses his ass.

By virtue of the fact that they ran against him and criticised him (mildly) both Hailey & De Santis will be out of the running.

Mad enough you say? I think I know the perfect foil.

You want to look at previous winners of "The Apprentice" to gauge what he's looking for.

Pence definitely helped with the God squad in 2016 so it can be a bonus if got right sometimes.

Don't want to lower the tone but Haley is attractive. On Haley people are ignoring while she has somewhat begin to politely ding Trump she has spent an absolute fortune in attacking RDS and sinking him in Iowa thus doing Trump a favor which he will be very aware off. Ron was always struggling but the money she has spent on burying him is remarkable especially considering she has spent sfa attacking the front runner.

On looks, I have money on Stefnik but she may struggle because she is someone people might think is not that attractive. I don't think she is ugly especially compared to the gargoyles we see in politics, but Trump is a pig so that will probably sink her unfortunately.

Pence was essentially a zombie who delivered Evangelical votes, and had zero visibility while VP. Trump won't want anything that distracts from the attention on him. Stefanik's way too political and likely too east coast. Noem seems sufficiently zombie and photogenic to make the cut plus has some anti-mask anti-vacc "credibility" that would help with keeping the MAGAts in line. Thing is, there's some salacious gossip about her and that brute Corey Lewandowski were doing the dirty while she was married to someone else and despite being all family values .

"He's definitely banging her."

I’d put it that the electoral college is working as designed. Not unlike the senate, It was set up as a further (geographic) obstacle to democracy - since the slave owning founding fathers knew democracy and capitalism are mutually exclusive. Even in the 1790s the gatekeepers to information (& thus winning elections) were the wealthy newspaper owners. Any one non-conformist newspaper owner or pamphlet distributor could be drowned out geographically by the cartel and thus have no impact on the result.

As for 3rd party being spoilers: Yes that system worked well, until now where potentially the entire participating electorate has access to seeing thousands of fellow USians expressing disgust for the entire electoral regime. I think Obamas fraudulent PR in 2008, (in hindsight, fool me once ….) & Biden funding genocide in 4k in Gaza are the final straw for the ancien régime – one can hope.

The younger age groups, that I see on social media, are saying that legacy media only influences or engages boomers or older nowadays. In other words, legacy media has no power or effect on the under 35s (maybe upto under 50s) – it may as well not exist as far as they’re concerned. This is a fast change, it could manifest in this election or the next.

If any of the 80 or 90 million who don’t vote (I mean those who make that decision because they see the presidential elections as basically a sham run by the oligarchy, not the 18 million racially disenfranchised by states) see a momentum for real change they might reregister and also vote 3rd party. Overall, I am suggesting this charade of a system is on its last legs.

This is probably one of the most interesting groups to keep an eye on 2024.

Biden and Trump will likely retain about 90% or so of their voters from 2020 so both guys need to ensure they hold their various constituencies and right now Biden's numbers with younger people are concerning. Their are numerous caveats, ages away , small polling size etc.

Trump doesn't need to win this voting bloc but if they don't come out like they did in 2020 then Biden is in all sorts of trouble.

Israel, climate change, the economic climate and the fact he was never young peoples choice in 2020, heck Clinton wasn't in 2016 makes it very interesting.

Vox who are a safe space for Dems did a reasonable article on it the other day.

https://www.vox.com/politics/24034416/young-voters-biden-trump-gen-z-polling-israel-gaza-economy-2024-election

Paywalled.

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Photo emerges of Trump watching CNN and FOX on two televisions during the voting. A great insight into whose opinions he cares the most about. FOX presenters bigging him up bigly im their interviews with anyone on the shows. Rupert’s son knows he needs him onboard if they’re to reverse their financial decline, but it’s a tightrope walk for them between now and election day if this is their new change of direction. Delighted Ramasmarmy is getting hockeyed. What a horrible individual to have in a race for public office, in addition to the rapist.

Lets check in on the Haley campaign lol. Lost to "none of the above" in Nevada and absolutely goosed in all primary states. Monumental lack of judgement from those who bet on someone with such low approval ratings on beating Trump in a primary.

If somehow Trump has to drop out , it won't be her, the donors may want her but you cant pick someone your party supporters don't like in a general IMO.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755218477508337732

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68225999

A very poor day for Biden and unless you are a MSNBC type echo chamber chap, you're very naive to think his decline won't be an issue for the voters. You can make an argument for Biden been superior on policy and character, but for Joe Bloggs does that matter?

Luckily for him Trump is so repulsive so it probably balances it all out but nonetheless the more we see from Biden its obvious the man is just isn't what he is.

I don't think they will replace him though, no obvious replacements who would win the EC college and tbf while not having the best of times in the polls he is far from doomed in them.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1755704576743772328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1755704576743772328%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Trump's brain is made of mush yes, but looking at polling its not something the Dems can kill him on unfortunately.

I think because Trump is generally pretty energetic he can somewhat get away with it while at times Biden can be a little bit doddering. Obviously some of the Biden stuff is RNC cynical editing, but nonetheless it is sticking much more than the clips you see from Trump making a clown of himself sadly.

Whoever wins it's really time for an upper age limit.

Term limits for politicians and judiciary is probably a good thing. Career politicians for the most part, aren't a great thing as they lose connection with the people they're meant to represent.

As far as polling this far out I wouldn't pay much heed to it.

This sounds very very familiar https://www.politico.com/story/2011/12/poll-obama-trails-in-swing-states-070344

I wonder what Clarence Thomas's plans are if we don't have a GOP president in 2020 or 2024? I assume like RBG die on the job, that's so bleak that either had that option.

Can't come soon enough. Ghoul of a person