The new recycling system

Interesting situation yesterday. Chatting to a neighbor about this and he will not participate in the scheme. He likes his beer but also his privacy. Fech them he says, I aint gonna stand in no queue and then have people watch how many cans I put in the machine.

So is a wall or a fence.

In all seriousness though I image that it will be an issue for some people, not just beer either.

It will be a factor for some, but really people passing won't know or care whether he drank those 10 cans in one go last night or over the past week.

Depending on what he drinks he may be able to avoid the scheme without losing deposits by switching from cans to glass bottles.

One of the side effects of Minimum Unit Pricing is that when beer is on offer the cans and bottles often retail at the same price per litre.

There’s an EU directive effectively mandating it. We’re early to comply with it, UK is next year.

Countries can implement other schemes if desired but they must meet the collection targets set out in the EU Directives.

we're late to the party (as usual). Other countries have already been doing this for years now. We're only getting around to doing it, after our country being caught out on not properly actually recycling the recyclables we already give. Recycling as it currently was, was just bin companies selling our recycling waste to other countries for a quick profit, or else incinerating it. EU put the wind up ireland's behind and gave us a goal of reaching 90% by 2029, so irish government panicked and came up with this scheme as an idea in hopes of reaching that 90% goal.

Essentially we're being punished/paying the price for the our countries mistake of not recycling properly. Currently there's no plastic bottle recycling facilities in ireland that actually recycle the plastic themselves, majority of recycling facilities here sell the recycleables on to other countries or some gets chucked in with black bins, ending up in landfills. Either this or gets incinerated as far as i know.

Hopefully with this new scheme they achieve one of the goals of building irelands first actual bottle recycling facility for plastic bottles, and are able to break down/melt the bottles into raw plastic materials to be sold and re-used again

I would hazard a guess you do not live in rural Ireland. There is a unique style of privacy that is practiced in certain circumstances. In others, people are very open and transparent.

You should have told him that he is already participating in it.

We all are, he just choosing to let them keep his money

No he’s not. This whole scam is to pump our numbers. Cans being bought and not put back in machines won’t pump any numbers, in fact, if a lot of people do what his neighbour does it’ll decimate the numbers.

He’s participating by funding the scheme with his deposits. He’s indirectly paying for the collection, wages etc. That’s the argument.

To not engage with the scheme, you’d have to stop buying plastic bottles and cans which also would help the scheme.

Maybe he gets his cans up the north.

Funding the quango won't be a problem.

There is literally 100s of millions profit baked into the scheme for the first 6 years and beyond.

The company have the money making machine for 10 years.

You'd imagine with so much cash filtering through the scheme there would be annual reviews.

An approval granted under paragraph 1 shall be reviewed by the Minister by the end of the second quarter of the third year after the grant of approval and by the end of the second quarter of each third year following.

Review every 3 and a half years.

But that is none of our business.

Ok you are not for turning.

I still say you'll be one of small minority.

We only buy a very occasional bottle of dilute/squash. Won't be using this system. They can havey deposit. Life's way too short .

It never fails to 'impress' me that we're ahead of the EU with this scheme yet can't get our act together onore important things.

I understand where you are coming from.

For my part, the machine is conveniently placed in my Dunnes and it has a slot for rejects. I will defo be bringing back bottles. Use a lot of them.

Cans are messier and dont use too many. Will have to figure sth neat out for them storage wise or just green bin them.

I got a tesco delivery on Friday. When I was ordering, no cans of pepsi in stock, no cans of Irn-Bru available. I hope the absence of stock is not related to the introduction of this scheme, and I certainly hope its not a permanent change. The Tesco delivery driver told me Tesco will not be collecting the empties. The driver who I know, said to me he's had more angry exchanges with customers since this came in, than in the previous 4 years put together as a Tesco driver.

I have been repeatedly told on this thread that we copied the fully functioning system from Germany, so I now have to ask if that is the case, why are so many people getting errors when using the system?