Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

There's bucking the trend, there's really bucking the trend and then there's the Green Party

All the graphs in the poll show a trend like this for our GP friends

Looks like SF have shot themselves in the foot

I know - I'm just showing it in plain green and red for all to see

Aren't the EU member states, including Ireland, in the process of implementing Europe-wide reform of the asylum and migration approach?

Not once, ever, is it mentioned on these threads. No — the fact that there are attempts to try address the situation into the future, to try introduce a more seamless and integrated identification procedure, to try secure the external borders of the EU .... all of this is omitted from the discussion entirely in favour of the usual whingefest.

Still though our country would be doing better if only say 10k were leaving and 30k coming back, right?

And the Greens want less carbon footprint cutting down the amount of cattle, cars and electricity within our country but sure lets open the floor gates for more people??? Never again will I give a preference/transfer vote to the GP... Complete deluded bunch

[10/2/24] Majority want tighter immigration rules in Ireland - 2/2/24 - 6/2/24 Irish Times/Ipsos B&A opinion poll:

• 6 in 10 voters (59%) favor a “more closed policy” on immigration, 
• 16% backing a “more open” policy. 
• 48% express a view they believe immigration has been a positive for Ireland, 
• 35% say it has been a negative.
• 69% have “some concerns” about asylum seekers/refugees accommodated in their local area
• 30% would be more or less likely to vote for a candidate “who voiced concerns about immigration”, 20% said they would be less likely & 40% said it would make no difference.

Giving a grand total pf 2.3 %...most of whom are from neighbouring East Asian states with cultural similarities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_of_Japan

Notice the text in that IT article focuses on immigrants in general. Again conflating legal migrants with asylum scammers. And in their weekend review section they focus on Indian IT and healthcare workers. Once again nothing to do with the asylum scam. Deliberate misinformation by our media and government

There are also major geopolitical differences that get ignored in the Asia examples that are always rolled out.

Japan and South Korea are both large, free economies whose only neighbours in the region are China, North Korea and Far East Russia. North Korea is effectively locked away (which in turn makes South Korea pretty difficult to reach), China is an economic megapower, while there isn't really major incentive for Japanese workers to migrate en masse to South Korea or vice versa as they offer largely the same economic opportunity and relative social freedom.

Furthermore, as you mention, Taiwan is effectively built on immigration and — should China start doing anything like what Russia have been doing in Ukraine (mechanised invasion and warfare), many of the 23 million Taiwanese would invariably flee and places like South Korea and Japan will probably end up taking a fair few on board.

You're probably reading too much into the depth of sentiment in the poll. I'd hazard a guess a good 95%+ of the people polled would regard the tricolour brigade we saw marching in town the other day as total headbangers / lunatics.

Ah, they are in the process of it are they? Very reassuring.

Usual whingefest- sure thing, no one is buying the refugee scam anymore as the poll today shows. (Apart from a few greens in the leafy suburbs, bless em)

The EU have been sitting on their hands the past 10 years on the mass amount of human trafficking happening off the coast of Africa ...

Oh actually they have made some progress on increasing the immigration mess

• Sending multiple warships into the med collecting tens of thousands of trafficked people mostly men each year...
• Paying bribes in the tune of billions to Turkey to keep them from flooding Europe with Syrians/ people from the middle east.
• Allowing NGOs to continue ship collections in med and coming to port, mostly in Italy and Spain.

All the above will not deter people from risking their lives drowning in the med, the human traffickers are placing these people on rubber tubes then the EU collects them a mile or 2 off the African coast. Many economic migrants are paying thousands or all their life savings on that trip and the EU is facilitating it.

On top of that, we now have people just rocking up on a flight demanding refugee, the EU is a complete soft touch mess. This will push people to the right and will create some hairy days for the whole EU project down the road.. People are just asking to enforce the boarders but yet completely ignored!

Who immigrated from China. Taiwan as mentioned earlier was built and made successful by huge immigration from China

What's that? EU countries are raising the drawbridge? That seems slightly at odds with your statement barely minutes ago that the EU is sitting on its hands.

Which is it then?

"But people need to understand that pushing to the right isn't actually going to fix the issue"

How do you know that? the EU have been facilitating this trafficking with warships collecting hundreds of thousands off the coast of Africa.

"unless you support killing refugees on the spot" "if you don't kill someone then the laws of physics provide that this person has to go somewhere"

Absolutely mental statements, I had to double read that. Why are you talking about killing people, you're "Scaremongering" as some other posters accused me for looking for stricter/proper controls on our boarders. So I'm seeking better boarder controls so automatically means I want to kill refugees, insane thinking... Expect that sort of comment from a teenager in a Uni society, clueless!

"And if you say deport them, deport them to where?"

Refuse the bogus asylum seekers arriving up to our shores especially from safe countries. Do exactly what Denmark, Belgium, Sweden (the list goes on) are doing, refusing these bogus seekers back to where their from.

"And if you say deport them, deport them to where? To what cost? With what plan? With what cooperation from the other countries that we might need to transfer them across? With what good will from the countries that are struggling who the developed world simply tries to dump at their door every single day? Why are deportations difficult a lot of the time? Why do the Dublin Regulations not work? Why do most applications to re-assign refugees to the safe EU country they travelled through fail? How do you fix that?"

I never said deport once , again you're pushing a narrative on me. Ask a million questions don't add to the debate here and say insane statements about supporting the killing refugees. How you're able to keep that comment up is incredible, disgusting comment!