Wife doesn't want to work (JSA question)

GerryCarry · 11-02-2024 2:36am #1

I am on JSA and getting €232. My wife doesn't have a job and has no interest in working (long story) and so SW wont give her a payment.

Can i claim her as an "adult dependent" and get an increase to my JSA? I understand the rate for an adult dependent who is your spouse is €146.

That would bring my JSA payment up to €376 a week.

To save money, I was considering moving back home to live with my father (who is a widow) and who is on the state contributory pension (and has a small income of €12,000 a year from leasing farmland).

If i brought my wife back home to live with me and my dad, would me and my wife still get the €376 or would the fact we are living with a person who is on the state pension affect the €376 and reduce it?

endacl · 11-02-2024 3:29am

If she’s fit, healthy but lazy, then no. What’s the ‘long story’?

BlueSkyDreams · 11-02-2024 3:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058335636/wife-doesnt-want-to-work-jsa-question

Could you get a job?

Hoboo · 11-02-2024 3:50am

What does JSA stand for again?

bucketybuck · 11-02-2024 3:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752466#Comment_121752466

Just Say Anything. People will bite.

JVince · 11-02-2024 9:50am

If someone really wants to work, there's a job there to be had.

Those who can work and can't be bothered, frankly deserve feck all.

I'm near certain that she would not be considered an adult dependant unless there's a medical reason for this.

Conall Cernach · 11-02-2024 10:04am

Spouses are considered adult dependents in cases like this. There is no onus on her to look for work though no doubt it will be suggested to her. If she has no other income or large assets then she should qualify for the full payment of 146. She won't qualify for jsa in her own right.

airy fairy · 11-02-2024 10:09am

Do you not intend to work anymore?

11-02-2024 10:10am

Entitled. I'm entitled to my entitlements.

That word really needs to be changed.

Clo-Clo · 11-02-2024 10:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058335636/wife-doesnt-want-to-work-jsa-question

If she doesn't want to work then you should go out and get a job that will provide for both of you.

It is her decision not to work so she is entitled to nothing.

An "adult dependent" is when someone is not fit to work due to illness.

Instead of going back and living with your dad why not just get a job?

11-02-2024 10:29am

People complain about immigrants coming to Ireland and claiming social welfare. Plenty of indigenous spongers in this country.

Clo-Clo · 11-02-2024 10:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752666#Comment_121752666

What I have seen the most vocal about immigrants is the people already sponging off the state. Why should they get a free house when I want a free house mentality.

Doe Tiden · 11-02-2024 10:39am

I had a big long post written but deleted it, but if op gets to add his wife as a adult dependant and moves home on shy of €400 a week why would he ever want to work again? He’s need to earn €600 a week to be as well off and have all the expense of work as well

11-02-2024 10:47am

OP what jobs have you applied to in the last month? The country is at full employment, so many employers are crying out for staff.

Why aren't you and your wife working?

gipi · 11-02-2024 10:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752646#Comment_121752646

Not true. The OP can claim for his wife as an adult dependant. It will be means-tested, if she has income or savings,but medical qualification doesn't come into it at all.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social-welfare/irish-social-welfare-system/claiming-a-social-welfare-payment/claiming-an-increase-in-your-social-welfare-payment-for-an-adult-dependant/

Clo-Clo · 11-02-2024 11:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752690#Comment_121752690

That's the problem. Too much money been handed out to people who can work but will never work because it is easier to get someone else to pay for them

Clo-Clo · 11-02-2024 11:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752719#Comment_121752719

That's a joke to be honest. Especially the bit about the part about living in another country.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 4:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058335636/wife-doesnt-want-to-work-jsa-question

If you are facing into a bottom of the barrel job do not take up employment, no matter what anyone says on here you will be facing into a housing market you will mathematically never be able to afford even a shed, you will work every god given hour struggling to make ends and pay rent.

Use the position you are in now to secure housing, start a family and once you are adequately accommodated then take on part time work but do not lose your benefits.

There are people coming into this country claiming all this and more, so i encourage you to use the system that was created to support Irish people originally do not be guilted into work you will be signing yourself to a life of utter misery in a dead end job that will never allow you to get ahead.

Tell your wife to play the game by the rules. Do as they ask but do not accept any nonsense employment and don't be guilted into by people on here.

JVince · 11-02-2024 4:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121752666#Comment_121752666

The funny thing is immigrants are desperate to work and will take virtually any job they are offered.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 4:47pm

And anyone on here that has a problem with my comment, come get some! High time Irish people starting using the system we have funded for years i am only delighted to see more and more taking up social housing and downing tools.

Danny Drier · 11-02-2024 4:49pm

Is this a WUM or just the usual lazy dog of a doler?

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 4:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753852#Comment_121753852

Oh they are yeah... i work in a company where they are well and i mean well paid, and they are the furthest thing from "dying to work" more like leeaching as much as they can before they get the road to benefitsville.

I swear to god the people that i hear parroting the stuff you are saying now have to be some of the most naive people on the face of the earth !

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 4:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753862#Comment_121753862

Depends on there nationality i guess?

jackboy · 11-02-2024 4:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753871#Comment_121753871

You work? I thought you were advising people to 'down tools'🤣

JVince · 11-02-2024 4:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753871#Comment_121753871

I employ four. They are great workers. No sudden sick days, rarely late and always looking to get things done.

cute geoge · 11-02-2024 4:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753852#Comment_121753852

Pull the other leg there

lbunnae · 11-02-2024 4:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753837#Comment_121753837

Why does it have to be a dead end job? Is Op an idiot who can’t advance?

noodler · 11-02-2024 4:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753854#Comment_121753854

It's primarily Irish people using it.

Same as it ever was

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 5:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753891#Comment_121753891

Anyone facing into a dead end job? Absolutely you would have to be a moron to work, what are they working for?

You laugh but have a look around you bud, do the math's lmao

I am assuming the OP isn't a doctor that has decided to chill on the dole.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 5:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753899#Comment_121753899

Never said there weren't genuine ones or hard working ones but from my experience and where i work they are the furthest from hard working and the compensation is well above average.

But we would be extremely naive to not acknowledge there are a decent size cohort coming to this country using and abusing the system.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 5:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753936#Comment_121753936

Good, as it was intended for.

bingobango12 · 11-02-2024 5:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753837#Comment_121753837

Start a family on a few hundred quid a week? Probably better spongers like you don't reproduce. As for the rest of your post, you are showing how braindead you must be.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 5:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753989#Comment_121753989

Ah yes because starting a family on the dole never happens....

And you want to call other people braindead?

Its brain damaged morons like you that have this country in the state its in, don't reproduce hopefully your brain dead bloodline stops with you.

Utter drone.

spurious · 11-02-2024 5:22pm

Username is most misleading.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 5:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754056#Comment_121754056

Amazing crystal ball you have there.

bingobango12 · 11-02-2024 5:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754012#Comment_121754012

Bye scrounger

Rubberchikken · 11-02-2024 5:33pm

',Workhorse'🥴🙄

Encouraging others to milk the system, a system that imo should be changed is pathetic.

vinniem · 11-02-2024 5:33pm

Sounds like a pair of spongers tbh, sickening!!

noodler · 11-02-2024 5:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753959#Comment_121753959

Not really, not once we joined the EU.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 6:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754113#Comment_121754113

bye braindead

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 6:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754128#Comment_121754128

Im the fool working its my taxes paying for it I would certainly encourage any Irish person struggling or down the bottom to do it, why not? there are 1000s from outside Ireland abusing it and you've no problem with that.

Id only love to see more of our own using the system the same as people from outside Ireland do, Id be happy to see my taxes go to that.

But I would never encourage anyone to go into a bottom of the ladder job if they are already behind in life, it would be sheer misery, house prices thru the roof and rent to boot they get mauled. Meanwhile Bananas in PJ's dropping her kids to school in a BMW from her free A rated house...

Wake up and smell the coffee bud you dont have to like it but it is a reality.

11-02-2024 6:34pm

Reported some posting here.

cute geoge · 11-02-2024 6:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754439#Comment_121754439

Pray you tell us

_H80_GHT · 11-02-2024 6:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754439#Comment_121754439

For goodness sake. We're all adults here. Are we that fragile? But go ahead, tell on the bold people if you must.

Workhorse2024 · 11-02-2024 6:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754472#Comment_121754472

Its like that on here you take up the unpopular side of the argument or have an opposite opinion to a popular argument, the ban tactics come out immediately.

boards is like a well to some people... they shout into it and only want to hear there own opinion back, its reality shattering when people don't agree with them.

This behavior of course is encouraged by the fact that admins only love to jump to their defense and all the snowflakes clap like seals "Thanks" all round!

Sad state of affairs really but shows the mindset of alot of people these days probably why the worlds as fucked as it is. An army of Piers Morgans.

Wife doesn't want to work (JSA question)

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