Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

So if they don’t get it, how can they implement their plan? I asked who was gonna find it, you said the FAI

The championship is a higher standard than the Scottish league and has been for a long time.

Hope it works out well for him if course, but nothing hilarious saying it's a backwards step.

How'd he play?

According to Shay Given on RTÉ its not Lee Carlsey!!

I’m happy with that

but then again imagine it was Robbie!!!

You can why it would be a very risky career move for Carsley. Currently he would probably get a very good club in the Championship, with a good chance of PL not far away. If he failed with Ireland (very good chance of that), then he might find himself struggling at the bottom end of the championship which can be a difficult ceiling to smash through.

From a potential managers point of view I think it’s a significant risk to take the Ireland job right now. It’s going to be hugely difficult do come out of it with much credit.

We have a tough nations league group where being relegated is a realistic outcome, and we’re not really in with a chance to qualify for the WC from traditional means. So that’s 2 years gone from their career without it having any benefit to their CV.

In 2 years though it’s probably a much more attractive role. A Euro campaign that will have 2 additional spots that Ireland might benefit from possibly with the chance to be more competitive in the nations league C tier, which boosts playoff chances.

So do the FAI settle for someone on a 2 year contract for now and then see what the landscape is after the WC campaign? Might be the best way to go about it.

Looking like it’ll be Lennon now then. Heard from a source a week of 2 ago when it first came out that Carsley was a doubt, that Carsley was plan A and Lennon was plan B, and that Plan A wasn’t finished yet.

Looking more and more like it is finished now.

Ambition depends on what options a manager has on the table and where they're coming from though. It'd be a very lowly manager who could be accused of lacking ambition for turning down the Ireland job. That's the reality of where we are.

Aul Scales up there with the best of them. Some achievement all the same.

Of course money comes into it, but I'd say career progression is far more important for Carsley and he's probably weighing the risks. Most championship managers make more than what the FAI are offering. But they also offer the chance to become a PL manager and really enter the big time. He would have to do an amazing job with Ireland to be offered PL jobs afterwards. It's just not a good job for most managers on the way up in their career. International success just doesn't get much recognition in club football, and in England, being their U21 manager is probably considered better than being our first team manager.

That's fair enough if you don't agree. I think a lot of English will believe that their U21 side is better than our first team, the players are technically better, and in tournaments they're playing in more useful games than Ireland have played.

In England, if a manager goes from England U21 to Ireland then it's only a step up in terms of having more media pressure and exposure. It's not going to be useful in any way for someone who wants to coach at elite level, assuming that is what Carsley is aiming for. Therefore the earlier snipe of lacking ambition doesn't make any sense.

Not a chance after the Kenny appointment

Some reports that the road block to Carsley becoming manager is the cost of his backroom staff. Hopefully a fairy Godfather will come in and close the gap.

As opposed to millions not coming in for salaries whilst this "crumbling" happens anyway?

Even though it got us a very lucrative play off with France and millions from qualification in 2012?

Organisation finances would have been in a much worse position without it.

Considering the FAI went much further into debt it wasn’t that lucrative.

Hopefully the continuing rise in LOI attendances will give a push to the next government to start to invest in stadium infrastructure. I see the attendances on opening night were excellent again almost across the board tonight.