Referendum on Gender Equality (THREADBANS IN OP)

Genuinely had to do a double take when I saw those posters out in the wild, they look so pro-life.

They wheeled out the feminists agenda in order to get abortion referendum comfortably passed by the Irish electorate.

This time they’re wheeling out another fundamentalist fanatical religion of climate change to urge their subjects the way they’d like.

Expect their minions in the Irish media to begin a campaign directed at shaming anyone who is against their wishes. Tactics like “think of the children’s future” & “if you vote no you are anti science” etc etc.

Let the predictable nonsense ensue.

Presumably advised not to include diverse families so as not to scare the horses. Better to sell the message 'mum & apple pie'. Despite 'mum' being sold down the swanee - she's being removed!

”And when it goes to the courts as it will, the justices will come back and roundly criticise the political system for using such loose language.”

Sounds like they have intentional issues forming coherent language. Highlights similarities to Helen Mcentees hate speech bill. (Which you’d be forgiven if you thought it was written by a child in junior infants)

Well their best bet to getting it passed is to keep it all 'mum & apple pie' and as low profile as possible. If there is any debate that focuses public attention on the changes - doomed.

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Рфы еру ышеу иуштп рфслув ру ру ру ру

More quotes from him in this one, same as O'Gorman threatening that there won't be any extra funding going forward unless the carers ammendment is voted through

"The Taoiseach also said the new article on care will give protections to carers and those they care for that are now limited to only to women and only in the home.

“It will put a positive obligation on future governments to continue to work hard to provide additional state support for family carers, men and women, in the home and outside of it,” said the Taoiseach."

Senator Michael McDowell released this statement today condemning O’Gorman’s Department’s Freedom Of Information Cover-Up

“The public interest requires keeping the public in the dark”

Minister Roderic O’Gorman’s Department has now decided that it would not be in the “public interest” to publish the minutes of the government’s Interdepartmental Group meetings which considered the proposed amendments to the Constitution, over the course of the last year 2023.

The Department has refused access to all 64 pages of notes and minutes discussing the consequences of the amendments including tax laws, social welfare laws, pension laws, allocation of family assets, alimony and allowance including the laws in relation to family reunification for asylum seekers. The withheld records include minutes of 16 meetings of the cross-departmental group. The records also include correspondence with an NGO named “Treoir”. The Department’s flawed opinion is that to allow access and publish these minutes would be “premature” and might impinge on “the integrity and viability of the referendums”, as “public officials could be seen to promote” referendum outcomes in breach of what the Departments says are the McKenna/McCrystal Principles. The Department apparently wishes to suppress all information in the minutes of the cross-departmental meetings until after the people have voted in the referendum. Are the people not entitled to know what the Department of Finance sees as the likely consequences for tax and pension law? Are the people not entitled to know what the implications are giving much wider rights for family reunification to asylum seekers and immigrants?

False Reliance on the Electoral Commission: The Department says that the function of the Electoral Commission is to “impartial and accurate information” to the public. But the Electoral Commission cannot tell the public what the consequences of the referendums will be for tax laws for family law relating to divisions of family homes, businesses, farms and pension law, criminal law, and succession law to name but some. All the Electoral Commission can do is to tell voters that the courts will have to decide “hard cases” in future disputes.

Cover Up : I reject the Department’s flawed reasoning for refusing public access to the process that led to these constitutional amendments being rushed through the Dáil and Seanad by Minister O’Gorman using guillotine motions to prevent proper debate. The Department’s decision perverts the democratic process which requires giving the people all the facts before they vote in a referendum.

As one leading, legal authority on Freedom of Information said: “The public is only marginally concerned with reasons supporting a policy which an agency has rejected…in contrast the public is vitally concerned with the reasons that did supply the basis for an agency policy actually adapted.”

There is no justification for this departmental cover-up of the processes and considerations that have led to these flawed referendum proposals.

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Government officials are actively promoting a Yes vote and the government is using taxpayers' money which funds these NGO's adamantly pushing for a yes vote. The NGO Treoir named above is of course pushing the yes vote, look at their home page www.treoir.ie "For more information on Treoir's Campaign for #VoteYesYes". The 'national women's council of Ireland' is nearly entirely reliant on government (public) money with 96% of staff costs over the past 3 years being paid for directly by grants from government depts & other publicly funded entities.

Remember this is the same Department that deleted three out of four reports pertaining to the treatment of children taken into care by Tusla sent to him by Judge Dermot Simms. The same Department that has young girls in Tusla care being exploited by ‘gangs’ of men. The same Department that has 12 separated children still missing from state carer. This is the same department Minister threatening unelected & unaccountable state-funded NGOs telling them that they must explain any decision not to support the referendum.

What is it they hiding? how can they claim impartiality as a reason to suppress important information the public should know? Has there ever been an impartial public-serving gov in the history of the state?

Catherine Martin spreading misinformation, the irony tho..... and she gets fact-checked for he trouble.

I was wondering were there any Irish people in twitter's community notes team at all

You've just made that up. Nobody at all said that "there won't be any extra funding going to carers unless the carers amendment is voted through"

Nobody made the statement you made though.

This is pretty damming in my opinion. O’Gorman,aside from clearly disrespecting the upper house, seems to be playing fast and loose with what normal democracy is. The public should have full insight into the rational.

He needs to answer the following questions?

What benifit is this change bringing for the government?

What benifit does it bring to the people’s(mothers) who’s constitutional protections are being removed and replaced with something that is essentially saying nothing.

If those two cannot be answered in 3 sentences or less each then why is the government only promoting a vote one way?

All paid for by you and me.