Deposit return scheme (recycling)

i'd imagine people who drive would be more inclined i guess, but i dont.

does that 8% include disabled & elderly people who are being scammed with a stealth tax?

you could have an air compressor with some different shaped caps attached for recombobulating damaged bottles

Option 2.

That is exactly what will happen. Nobody is going to continue on with their day out shopping, carry a can / bottle, get on public transport, walk home and keep that can / bottle in a bag until the next time they go to the shop.

I wish I could have been part of the planning meetings when this was being proposed with scenarios and use cases being discussed. Just to understand the level of ineptitude we have at government level. Its baffling.

I would guess that 90% is a combined target of all recycling efforts.

yeah sad to say it only counts for re-turn items, well re-turn's statistics on returned units. This is why when a person redeems the re-turn items for a deposit voucher at the RVM, they have to swap it for cash (or spend in-store for money off) at the store who's RVM you got the voucher from.

Other non-return recyclables we have no way of knowing percentage rates as there's nothing to track them, so they're intentionally being excluded due to being less profitable and not in re-turns interests in tracking.

Re-turn is basically the governments golden ticket/excuse/attempt to reach the target goal the EU overlords pulled out from their pocket. Irish government really got the wind put up them, when it was discovered that tomfoolery that goes on in how what ireland actually does with the recyclables people give. They had no numbers to show the eu and got caught with the pants down being greedy and privatizing recycling to private bin companies as a like a commodity. Bin companys just end up burning most of it or else selling it to 3rd world counteries and dumping some in landfills. Despite the average citizen being tricked into thinking they're doing a good job and that their recycling is actually being recycled when its not. System messed up and now we get punished for it essentially with this new deposit tax.

i'm eyeing up that bag of cans on the right. if it were me i woulda taken it and crush them down and hold onto, to sell to scrap yard for scrap aluminium. they're worth just under 2 cent each.

Most likely a dent or similar damage to the can has prevented the RVM from reading the barcode.

A container that you buy and pay a deposit on should be returnable at any RVM.

Ah maybe that's it. I hadn't thought to check whether it had or not but I'm betting it's as you say..cheers I'll check the next time I'm in it

I have gotten a refund on a bottle that had no logo and was purchased pre deposit rollout. Seems to be all about the barcode.

To all the posters glorying in the antics of the littering blackguards in Glenageary.

The people who did that are your worst nightmare.

They are the type of people who would throw rubbish into your front garden and laugh at you when you come out to clean it up.

They'd dump their domestic rubbish all over the open spaces in your estate.

If you live rurally they would fly tip all over your back roads and ditches. Turn your fields into dumping grounds.

And you are supporting them ?

Wake up

If it's all about recycling why couldn't the machines offer the user an option to accept zero deposit refund for your can/bottle if it's rejected as it's outside the scope of the scheme? The same scanning as currently is done by the machine to verify item is within scope but only step failing is the barcode so it could easily implement this.

You posted it in both the C/A and A/H threads so I was just seeing if you wanted to go for the hat trick. You ok with that ?

If the barcode is registered, you don't need a receipt, logo or no logo. You'll never need a receipt for in-scope items.

If the barcode isn't registered, you shouldn't be charged at all so you may want a purchase receipt if you're going to argue with the shop that charged you.

The fact that you can't crush plastic bottles is ludicrous. My bin would be full in a day if I didn't crush recyclables. When i do crush them it's full in a week or so. I simply don't have the space not to crush them. It's a **** up of a scheme and for this reason alone is destined to failure. The machines are effectively full of air and fill up in no time.