I buy Bottled water in Bulk and got stung for 6 euro charge today!! Deposit return Scheme- !!

My sister is disabled. Do you need a picture to prove it?

These people do not care, they have a hobby horse and they are going to ride it, it does not matter one little bit who might be affected by it.

Didn't covid teach you anything?

It's usually allies that are the problem, most disabled people take pride in independence

And that says it all about you

If I travel 140km then yes

What hope do we have when the moderator is this arrogant

When did deposit schemes exist before in Ireland? The 1970s/80s? For glass bottles?

The big difference and it seems people have to keep repeating this is that there were no bottle banks then or recycling bin collections.

The local authorities and government developed a recycling system using bins a decade and more ago. Most people pay for this service and use it.

The current RVM scheme is fine by itself, what is a scandal is that no effort has been made to integrate this new scheme with the existing that many people were quite happy to use.

Spot on @Furze99 . I also note that many advocates for re-turns introduction will point to problems with mixed recycling, and how this was needed because of those problems.

They never go on to say that these problems will still be there for everything left in the green bin. That this scheme works for only 2 types of waste (PET bottles and aluminium cans). That nothing else, from dairy to paper, cardboard to film plastic, other metals to food waste is anything to be worried about.

Eventually we need a better way to recycle everything (as well as reducing and re-using). As someone who recycles everything for, I personally would have liked something that builds on where we had got to and addresses the wider solution than something completely new and only for a couple of items.

I don't buy that explanation one minute. As stated I think RVMs make possible sense as an anti litter measure. But it's inexcusable that the existing recycling system is not running in parallel with this for the domestic disposal of these containers. If there was an issue, the state should be leaning on the bin collections companies and those recycling the contents to improve and accurately report their figures of these containers. The public have a strong suspicion that it suits some of these to simply divert the recyclables to incineration. But that is not the publics fault, you will have heard of the chap who put gps trackers in his scrupulously clean recyclables and tracked them to Ringsend.

Someone in one of the recycle threads posted they thought that used nappies should go in the compost bin.

The week after my next door neighbour moved in beside us she put a load of half empty nail polish bottles in our green bin because her service hadn't been set up. A lot of people don't have a clue tbh.

OP

They did a test on people who complained about water taste and drank bottled water. They simply refilled the water bottles and put them in the fridge. They then did a taste test between the regular bottled water. The people couldn't tell the difference. The conclusion was it was either the temperature of the water or they got used to the taste of water from plastic bottles. That is why jug filters work for people.

They test tap water more than they test bottle water for quality

The RVMs will be more reliable in the future when IT services get them sorted and staff understand how to empty and replace receipts on them. The next phase will be electronic payment

That is correct.

and back then the thoughts of buying water in bottles was laughable. On the Late late show new enterprise night the audience (and gaybo) laughed with Ballygowan was introduced.

current 1.8b plastic bottles are produced here.

600 million go to landfill

Do you mind me asking what steps you are taking to reduce plastic?

I don’t buy bottled water myself- I use tap water filtered through a brita jug.

I try not to buy multipacks of fruit that are wrapped in plastic but this is easier said than done.

When I occasionally go food shopping (I mostly get it delivered) I will bring my own reusable bags.

Any other tips?

Not at all.

To reduce plastic I invested in a sodastream, this replaced carbonated water and most of the soft drinks in our house. Also moved more to mi-wadi (admittedly still in plastic), but it means mainly tap water is now used. Will invest in a filter next (quite hard limescale area).

If I am on the go and buying a drink I will try to use a soda fountain (in say a garage, or McDonalds, etc) - albeit that is often way more expensive.

Moving from cans to glass bottles for beer where I can (or better again have a drink out). I'd prefer if this could be re-use.

I also invested some years back in a bean to coffee machine so as not to use coffee cups - have a couple of reusable flasks I bring if I am away from home.

Not a complete saint, I would still have some coffee cups used, and occasional other containers, but certainly the usage in our house has dropped significantly.

Some people so stupid, lazy or ignorant. The bin in this photo if it's in Glenageary LIdl, is massive. Somebody has jammed the opening with uncrushed bottles. Maybe its full and needs emptying, but if people chuck in uncrushed bottles that they probably know are outside the scope of the scheme, it won't be long filling.