Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

I am no supported of SF, but EOB has explained how SF in Govt would build 4,000 affordable houses.

Also, bear in mind at peak of housing bubble we built 90k+.

How would he finance this and where is the labour coming from?

What is the offset impact on current private developments, since there is finite construction resource which is already engaged.

We did indeed build 90k,but the construction labour force was much much larger than it is today.

We need alot more people employed in building services to get near those numbers.

Something to aim towards, I agree, but the irony of course, is that there is nowhere for them to live, whilst they build homes.

UN mk 1 as useful as a chocolate teapot so not sure what mk 2 would achieve…

During the 20th the worlds population grew from 1.65 billion to 6 billion and we’re at 8 billion and rising rapidly. It’s unsustainable imo and Europe is not and cannot responsible for this. Hard conversations have to be had globally but needs to start here.

Government to crack down on people seeking asylum for 'economic reasons' (irishexaminer.com)

Roderic O'Gorman must have had the most fashionable opinions in Ireland two years ago. It really shows how things have turned that he's openly saying that 60% of asylum seekers don't meet the criteria. Not so long ago that would have been dismissed as a far right view, regardless of it being true or not.

Nope. All GPs are out the door for years now and with free care for children and less doctors to go around, getting worse.

Still not the fault of immigration.

Health is being cutback today as we write.

I agree with what you say... In fact I wrote most of it a few days ago!

And you haven't even credited that post!

@Sunny Disposition.

Here is my post from Feb 8th..

Talking about others being disingenuous and then you rewrite my post.

I'll take it as a compliment 😁

Well I think it's worth pointing out here firstly that the EU's population is projected to decline towards the latter end of this decade. It's also worth reminding ourselves that one third of the global population are in China and India alone. When it comes to refugees, the vast majority of them are in poor / middle income countries.

So the idea that somehow Europe is putting itself in some position of taking on the world's population as its responsibility doesn't really hold up against the numbers.

I do agree with you that hard conversations need to be had, but I think that an honest conversation on this needs to acknowledge that no policy comes without flaw or downside. The "Right" tends to put it out there that reducing migration and getting tougher on asylum seekers is this relatively easy thing that only requires the will to do it — and there is nothing but upsides for native people of thread developed world.

So what are the downsides? What sacrifices need to be made?

There will be a large exodus from Africa over the coming decades.

I think the general trend of asylum migration is just the tip of the iceberg, so we do need to prepare better in terms of how we will manage the mass movement of people.

What part will we play? How do we best prepare? What benefits are there etc.

This is it in a nutshell.

The present global population growth rate is unsustainable.

The planet needs a population cull.

It's that simple.

You're interjecting a lot there,

"surely your main concern is being harassed by local skangers near the local shops or in the park"

No I don't have any concern like that. And as you're from a working class area, we're all a bunch of skangers right?

"If I saw a bunch of black or Muslim fellas coming towards me on the pavement or in the park, I wouldn't even notice them but I would immediately tense up if I saw a bunch of young skanger types heading in my direction and making eye contact.....I'd be expecting trouble"

Been a scrotbag doesn't discriminate against skin colour and or faith following... anyone can be a "skanger"

Did mention there's a huge difference in demographics within the part of Dublin I live in from your point about working class areas and the revelations that 60% of asylum seekers are refused because of bogus claims.

I've never once had any problems with black people, Muslims or any non nationals in my area. But I've had a fair few episodes over the years of bunches of local skangers up to no good and spoiling for a fight, name calling, invading my space etc (nothing personal with me either....they're like that with everyone).

I'm baffled at how anyone who lives in a genuinely working class area in Dublin could say they are more worried about anti-social behaviour from immigrants in the area than from the locals.

I spoke to a 70 year old migrant he has lived in a hostel for six months I asked him why did you come here. He says income here to find a job and send money back to my family he's in good health .I told him most company's will not take on a 70 ,year old as a new employee he lived in in italy making leather goods he has a drivers licence

Even if he finds a job he would be spending most of his wages on rent unless he intends to stay in the hostel for years

Ireland has a low rate of migrants compared with the UK or other EU country's

It seems we only seem to be talking about illegal migrants as a problem since the war in Ukraine started. I think about 200 people arrive here every week approx

I thought the whole "unvetted males" thing was one of the main reasons asylum seekers would be seen as a problem? That would certainly come under the category of anti-social behaviour, along with other types of crimes i.e. directly linking asylum seekers with potential criminality.

That's my experience too. I've never had a serious incident of any description thankfully, just general low level harassment but repeated many times - probably the same for most people who grew up in a working class area.