Fed up with Anti vape agenda

Most untrue post.

Vaping = nicotine delivery so definately the realm of Big Tobacco.

I'm sick of the Cúnts selling to children and teens

This. It had the potential to be a less dangerous alternative to smoking for those who already smoked. Instead it was marketed to kids to get them hooked.

Vaping seems quite idiotic to me. The tobacco industry absolutely selling the idea to younger folks.

i smoked about 20-30 major a day for about 35yrs,have to say the morning cough was great!!! good mate of mine put me onto the vaping thing and have to say within a month the cough was gone and i could taste food again,can breath alot better and walk uphill without wheezing,that was 40r5yrs ago,still vape the odd time...now having said that i think marketing those disposable jobbies to kids shouldnt be allowed at all...

Went from smoking 20 a day for 9years costing easily 120e a week to vaping.

I bought a rechargeable vape, cost me 35e and the liquids cost me 5e for 4 bottles of sapphire 12mg every 2 weeks

I replace the vape once a year as the battery gets well worn.

I must be saving thousands compared to when I was smoking.

I'm not blind I'm sure vaping has negative effects but so far smoking is definitely worse and it helped me give up the smokes.

Next step is to try give up the nicotine altogether I've been reducing my mg of nicotine in it since I started to try ween off it, next step is 6mg and lower voltage hit.

Honestly if it wasn't for vaping I'd still be smoking 20 a day maybe more and my health would be definitely worse. Only time I cough now is when I have a cold.

They need to get rid of the disposables, all them flavours and different colours lighting up its clearly aimed at kids and teens, if I could go back in time I'd never of picked up a smoke.

Ban the disposables, double the fines if caught selling to kids.

I'm another ex smoker who used vaping to quit.

I don't vape at all now.

I agree the targeting to children and teens is awful.

That said, I'd be wary of going the route of making it a fully medical product only available through pharmacies. The risk being if the price goes too high it won't be attractive to smokers.

I'm not saying to put current smokers above future generations, only to ensure the price stays low when restricted as a public health measure.

What? I'm vaping 2-3 years. I've cut down on the mg on nicotine I take gradually.

It has helped me quit smoking which is worse then vaping

Where you get 10 years from?

If vapes weren't available I'd most certainly be still smoking 20 a day maybe more

Please tell us more about aspartame and how its actually proven to cause cancer. And please include the level of aspartame you would have to consume to cause cancer. Proven of course

I’ve never seen an ad for a vape. Where are these marketing geniuses marketing vapes to kids??

"JECFA concluded that the data evaluated indicated no sufficient reason to change the previously established acceptable daily intake (ADI) of 0–40 mg/kg body weight for aspartame. The committee therefore reaffirmed that it is safe for a person to consume within this limit per day. For example, with a can of diet soft drink containing 200 or 300 mg of aspartame, an adult weighing 70kg would need to consume more than 9–14 cans per day to exceed the acceptable daily intake"

So you have to drink up to 14 cans every single day to actually surpass what's deemed a safe limit and enter the completely hypothetical risk factor zone.

That's a very, very far cry from "It is proven to cause cancer" in your first post.

Anyone drinking 14+ cans of soft drinks every single day has a serious problem that would manifest in some other unhealthy way if it wasn't drinking soft drinks.

What you're doing would be akin to saying "I can't believe they promote sausages, they're proven to cause heart disease" because you'd be at serious increased risk of same.....if you ate 14 every single morning.

The same hysteria is regularly applied to vaping as well. "Sure they're worse than the cigarettes". Completely unsubstantiated claim that typically boils down "So you're saying they're good for you?". No, no-one is saying vaping is good for you, or that it has zero effects, but given what we do know, it seems a far better prospect for your health than smoking cigarettes.

My brother, who's into spending all his day "researching" various topics on the internet instead of getting a job, is always on about the aspartame being brutal for you and giving you cancer (no real evidence to say it does, though it increases the risk slightly).

Now, I like the diet drinks, mostly because they don't feel like I'm tonguing out a sugar beet. But I used to only drink sugary drinks when I was younger, and a lot of them. They were very addictive to me. But as I've got older, the diet drinks came into play, and I've stuck with them. Now, the thing is there, they taste just as good for me. They're fine, they just don't have the same kick as the sugary stuff but perfectly fine.

But the thing is, I was drinking about 2ltrs a day of the sugary stuff, and did for a few years. I simply don't do that any more, and haven't for a long time. I'd have a can of the no-sugar stuff a day, usually in ice at dinner time, or if we're out and about I might pick up a bottle, but I'm consuming at least 2ltrs of water a day and consistently do.

The brother on the other hand, about half sugary drinks (aspartame causes cancer don't you know), quarter coffee, quarter water a day. Numerous health problems compared to myself and he's 6 years younger. So much for "research".

The point being sometimes things are the lesser of two evils. The same with vaping. It's probably not as bad, or likely to have as many effects, long term as smoking. And from what I know talking to people, it does seem to help in some way compared to regular auld cigarettes.

The problem with vaping though isn't people vaping, it's young people vaping, being targeted towards them, poorly regulated with regard to them, and the strong possibility of addiction to them given their young age. So I see no problem in targeting vaping as bad when it comes to discouraging young people. Once their adults, it's their decision, but discourage away.