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When you walk past a big house

  • 14-02-2024 10:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    You know when you go for a long walk and spot a huge house somewhere? Am I the only one who assumes they most likely deal? Yada yada invested in property and all that but itd make you think.


    Anyway, what do you think their secret is?



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Kade Helpless Backache


    They work for their money perhaps?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    They are probably just a better class of person than you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Pity that the Harry Enfield considerably richer than you clips are such poor quality on Youtube, would be a prime opportunity to post one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Nobody in life gets any where in life without being smart and going the extra mile, doing the dirty job, taking the crappy overseas posting or something like that. You need to go the extra mile in life.



  • Posts: 0 Jason Weak Seeker


    i can confidently say I’ve never seen a big house and presumed the owner/occupier is a drug lord.

    Generally besides perhaps admiring it if it’s a nice house, I think little of the owner.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    They may be very smart and have worked hard in well paying jobs, they may have their own successful business or may have inherited money or won money, they may be mortgaged to the hilt and be eating beans on toast 😆. Who knows.

    In rural Ireland I see a lot of McMansions still being built, 3000 or 4000 sq foot houses. I do wonder why they need them. In this cold climate they will have to heat these houses. Environmentally speaking they aren’t great for the environment. To answer your question though my first thought wouldn’t be how did they afford it but why do they need such a big house in the first place?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,114 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Funny, but there's a massive (and I mean really massive) house that has been built near me. Someone I know had reason to be in it recently. As well as a large number of spacious rooms, it has a lift, a full gym, and a few other very unique amenities. It can't be seen from the road, so other than them telling me about it, I wouldn't have known it existed.

    I happened to be on Google Maps last night looking something else up, and it has now appeared on the satellite view (previously all you could see was that the land was being cleared). I'm currently house-hunting, so I'm in and out of the land registry and the local authority planning applications as part of my research, so decided to do a bit of snooping, just to see what it's all about, simply because it's such a unique and remarkable house.

    Turns out the owner is a surgeon with a private practice. They worked abroad, and returned back to Ireland to settle here, establish their business, and build their dream home.

    And fair play to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,659 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    I'd be thinking if I owned it how I'd do it up or I'd be thinking I'd redo the garden.

    That's a bizarre post really, how could every big house in Ireland be owned by a dealer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,247 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Depending on the size of the gates my first thought is usually "bloody travellers"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭JVince


    Tech and pharma companies gave very generous stock options in the 90's and 00's.

    These share prices have soared

    A low rank Facebook employee would have easily had 2,000+ options. Even after paying tax, they'd be worth 500k+

    Middle rank would have had more.


    Now think of all the other companies who gave share options and the value those shares rose to.


    That's a lot of fine houses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    All of the very wealthy people I know got a lot of their wealth through some types of shenanigans or other

    The others inherited their wealth from their parents who, no doubt got their money through screwing people over in some way or another.

    People earning high salaries have nice houses too, I'm talking about the ones with the parapets and gates that cost more to install than most people spend on their children's education



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I thought you were going to ask do you look in the window to see how the other half lives and yes, I definitely do 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,147 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    My first thought is usually, " wouldn't want to have to hoover that ".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    IME the majority of Muck Mansions are not owned by drug dealers or surgeons but by people with average jobs who built a big house on Daddy's land. They'd have the attitude that if you're building one off house and have plenty of land, you might as well build a big one as a small one. I woudn't consider these people wealthy and would regard such a house as a millstone around my neck. I'd much rather an average house with lots of sheds and space around it for storing scrap cars and other junk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,086 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    A massive house in the countryside away from cities can be the same price as a 3 bed semi in Dublin, where something like 35% of the population live.

    My house is worth more than my brother's that is well over twice the size, and mine isn't that small.

    He's not a drug dealer as far as I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I usually just ask myself why the f**k you'd want a house that big? Some of the enormous houses in the countryside make zero sense to me at all. Must cost a fortune to heat, it's just a waste of space to me.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Agree, if I were to have a huge house I'd want the budget for a cleaner too. Imagine having to clean 5 or 6 bathrooms...no, thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If you have to ask how much it costs to heat, then you can't afford it...

    I think a lot of people just don't grasp just how stupidly wealthy some people are. Just how enormous the wealth disparity is in this country.

    People spend more on a piece of garden furniture than the average worker earns in a year, and they will still think they're paying too much in tax and are being unfairly treated...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    When you read some of the comments in this thread it’s no wonder ambition is a dirty word here

    Working hard and being successful? Load of bloody notions, don’t get above your station (read: don’t show the rest of us up for the lazy, visionless fecks we are)

    They’re probably all drug dealers or people that screwed everyone else for money. You’d have to laugh.

    Crabs in a bucket come to mind



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭brokenbad


    A lot of these "McMansions" are built with delusions of grandeur and status - they probably are up to their tits in debt to pay for same.

    Imagine the heating and maintenance costs of these places....

    A few years in, suddenly people realise the cost of upkeep on these mansions far outweighs their income and the novelty of having a "big house" starts to wear off.

    Have a look on daft.ie and you'll see any amount of these dream homes up for sale due to re-possession, marriage breakdowns, downsizing, etc.

    Post edited by brokenbad on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭iniscealtra


    I know some people with very large houses. Those in Dublin work in fianance. Others inherit property or money or both. Those in the countryside often have huge mortgages and fairly regular jobs. Self inflicted debt in many cases. The attitude seems to be to build big rather than small for some. Then they are under serious financial pressure when they have kids. I’m just glad I have a small to regular sized house. 😅



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    Hahaha I’d imagine drug lords own .001% of nice houses. Not sure where you are from though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19 SilentBee


    🤣You know there are actual legal ways to make a lot of money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    it's not even about the money, why would you want to waste that much gas or oil or whatever to heat an enormous house and space you don't need? never made sense to me. if my partner and i were to sell our small dublin houses we could buy one of these behemoths outside of dublin easily but it just does not compute for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Stay away from my gaff!!!🔫



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    If I see a big house and I think about who owns it, it first depends on where the house is. Middle of Ballsbridge or Dun Laoghaire or Dalkey, I am not assuming drug dealer, for example.

    Mostly I would think, in no particular order

    • successful business owner
    • well paid professional (solicitor, surgeon, etc)
    • inherited wealth
    • inherited land and put a self build on it
    • tradesperson who has bought the land or a smaller house and done most of the work/extension on it themselves
    • some combination of the above

    Unless it was a brash and outlandish design that screamed 'new money', drug dealer wouldn't enter my head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,247 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I know lots of rich people and I'm bleedin minted , but the big houses I mentioned belong to the travelling community and they are huge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭thereiver


    There's plenty of rich people in Ireland Also property was a lot cheaper in the 90s than it is now most drug dealers live in ordinary 3 bed houses .people also inherit old houses from their parents . There's plenty of rich business people who will buy a house for millions of euros .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,659 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    I knew a few who became well off from the 80s/90s on, nothing amazing, property, land, business, and not huge amounts of land or property and we're talking small business.

    Post edited by mariaalice on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,699 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Have a friend who built a McMansion on their parents land back around 2010 when the price of building was rock bottom. The house is massive, circa 400sqm. Even their car garage which is a double storey building with stairs inside it is the size of a 3 bed semi detatched house.

    Ultimately though they've come to regret it as its just too big which means the cost of everything inside the house is doubled, tripled and often more. So instead of a normal 6 place dining table they've got a 12 place one because the dining room has tons of space to fill and a 6 seater would look stupid in such a big room. Same with the sofa, instead of a 3 seater and 2 armchair set up its a custom made sofa that would seat about 12 people. Kitchen countertops so vast that you could fit a brigade of chefs at them. Even the console table when you enter the front door is like almost 2 meters long and the two lamps on it are giant sized to fit the space. So everything inside it cost them a fortune and now almost 15 years on stuff needs replacing and they cant afford things like €10,000 for a new custom sofa. The gutters need replacing and the quote they had was €7k because theres so much of them.It just goes on and one. And then theres the cost of a cleaner for a place that big, €5k a year they pay. Plus their electricity costs are massive heating such a big space, they've had bills of over €1,000 for just two months supply.

    The thing has become a millstone around their neck and now in a few years their kids are moving out to go to college so the massive cavernous house will feel even more empty. He's confided in me that although they both have a decent wage it just gets swallowed up maintaining the house, theres always another bill or cost to pay and a massive house equals massive bills. They actually feel trapped because if they could they would sell it and buy a smaller house but they cant as its on parents land who live just up the road from them. So selling up would be effectively moving away from home and selling the land donated to them as well as moving the grandkids away from the grandparents, there would be war if they did that. So they're stuck literally ploughing a huge wad of their disposable income into just running this massive house that is way too big for their needs and now they cant sell it and correct their mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    i'm sorry but your friend can't be very bright, this is just idiocy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I certainly never think dealer when i see a large house. Just that the owners have done well for themselves and quite possibly inheritance is involved also.

    Location matters though. A big house down the country might not actually cost very much, relativley speaking.

    A 3 bed home in the best areas of Dublin could cost 1 million +, whereas 750k would buy you a huge mansion down some parts of the country.

    But the big houses in Dublin are mad money and there a lot of them. Especially coastal Dublin.

    It really shows how much money there is in the city. But fair play to the owners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    A lot of the nice big houses around me are horse/farming types.

    I'd be surprised if a lot of dealers had big flash houses because CAB would be on them in no time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Due to humanities actions since the industrial revolution we have seen a rise in global temperatures. It is beholden on every organisation and individual to reduce their carbon footprint. I really wonder at people of the likes that drive big cars (suvs) and build mcmansions. What is the rationale? It's nearly all non 'old money' people aswell. I really do hope that we don't become too americanised and equate money with class.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭yagan


    I know an auld couple that raised a family in a meagre three bed house. Anyhow all the offspring chipped together to build mammy and daddy a nice new house beside the old house, typical McMansion you see in the countryside.

    Anyhow they moved across the yard, brought the old range from the old kitchen. When I dropped in for a visit they had turned one of the downstairs rooms into their bedroom and did nearly all their living in the kitchen, like back in the old house. All the other rooms, which is most of the house was empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    Most people couldn’t give a shite about wasting gas or oil. The money would be a much bigger driver in putting off someone getting a big house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    some of us don't like wasting anything, drilled into me as a kid, although i do waste a lot of time posting here 😶



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Big houses near where I live..

    doctor in one, retired consultant, husband and wife both retired doctors, one was a cardiologist, retired early, his heart wasn’t in it anymore…..also next door is a dermatologist… I don’t know her but I’m told she’s a good skin…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,000 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I live out the country and I don't think much of seeing of what some would consider a big house.

    However I may question you if you have some type of decorative fascia.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭Strumms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It is unreasonable of the parents to insist that they stay in situ and bankrupt themselves. That won't be much help to the grandchildren.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,456 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Having seen many drug dealers' homes I certainly wouldn't assume they own a big house. It is one way to get CAB paying attention to you is living beyond your provable income. Incredibly expensive car in a driveway of a council house is a good indicator of a dealer



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭Grey123


    I see a lot of very lange country houses and know a few who built them. Usually built on family land. Any savings from the land went straight into the house sizes.

    Usually have a very large entrance hall, almost hotel like. However most i know lack much design features to make it homely. Everything just seems big for the sake of being big. A huge island in the kitchen, living rooms that could take 3 or 4 sofas.

    They are great when you have loads of people around for an event but can feel pretty empty a lot of the time, especially if there are no kids.

    I'd admit a living rooms downstairs is nice especially if you have kids. Although you can get that in older semi ds. You don't need a big second room.


    They appear regularly on daft. I always wonder what the story is behind, marriage break down? Location too isolated?

    Having a pub in the house actually seems common! Although I've never been in one with that. A bar, stools, pub stuff on the walls. Could probably seat 20. I often wonder how often it was used especially as the houses are rural.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,085 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    You come across as very bitter.

    People who spend 40k+ on outdoor furniture are few and far between.

    Maybe the JP McManus types, not the average high-end wage worker.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭yagan


    Here's one I know of. Widower farmer living in old house, the new motorway would be passing close enough for him to be entitled to a new build, which he gets.

    Daughters marriage breaks down and he offers her a move in withy him, she politely declined sayin the kids would drive him mad. So on quiet he has another mcmansion built beside his for her, but then the truth comes out, she wants to stay in the town.

    So two mcmansions later paid for by compulsory purchase order money and the last i heard he preferred living back in the old house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I think that ship sailed centuries ago.

    Money has always been associated with class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    There's people/ families with 'old money' and same with 'new money'. They both carry on as described in OP.

    The rest of us exist to serve them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    As someone who worked as a window cleaner in posh areas, I can safely say a lot of them are making money from OnlyFans. 😄



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