Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

You obviously don't understand the term "whataboutery" - it requires an unconnected issue. The Hamas attacks and the kidnappings are why Israel attacked Gaza.

By your logic, somebody complaining about Berlin being run by foreigners in 1945 would be perfectly entitled to shout "whataboutery" if the answer given was "Because the Nazis".

Which would be ridiculous. As is the attempt to do the same here.

'It's war, can't prove war crimes in war'

What Hamas did was a terrorist attack. Soon as their leaders are turned over, war crimes can be tried (rape, dismemberment, murder). There is evidence being gathered about this attack. The tragedy of that family that Sky reported on, is just not evidence yet. It's a news report. And it's disgusting.

But that hasn't been proven. Apply your standard evenly.

Is that what the slaying of the sheep was? A birthday celebration?

It's unfortunate that Israeli apologism would stoop so low as to throw its hands up in the air and say 'it just can't be proven' to matters that would otherwise go unchallenged, except, lo, the allegations are leveled at Israel, the Most Moral Army in the World TM.

What do you call the murder of people waving white flags? Or would you just decline to answer?

How can we admit what hasn't been proven under the standard applied used to excuse the IDF from murders?

Haven't seen you admit that what Israel is doing is committing war crimes. Clarify that please.

Well there's the fact that Hamas claim themselves to be holding those captives in Gaza. Do you think they are lying?

I think you missed the point of that post entirely, or you've decided to intentionally misconstrue it.

The same rational, critical thinking approach that allows me to conclude what happened on the 7th was an abhorrent act of mass terrorism, also allows me to see that what Israel is doing in response, is Genocide.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass"

I wish more people who are so sure of command and control centers under every bakery and school and home without the sufficient evidence were as willing to admit what Israel is conducting here is a genocide.

As I said, and anticipated, one can of course take an ad-hoc a-la-carte approach to deciding what is and isn't connected in order to suit themselves.

If one group in a fictitious place, lets call it Northern Island, kills a group of people in a pub on Monday and in retaliation the second group explodes a bomb on the Wednesday, then the second group cannot go on about the Monday incident as we have decided it suits us to dismiss it as unconnected and therefore "whataboutery".

Whereas in another fictitious place, let's call is Philipstine, if one group does something on October 7th, then if the other group goes on a genocidal rampage, then there is no maximum length of time the the second one can say "whatabout" what happened on October 7th without it being whataboutery. They can keep milking it even 4 months and 30k+ murdered later.

Perfectly logical and consistent. As always.