Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

Nothing stopping the civil service using the Engineer grade for IT staff. A few public bodies have done that already, able to bridge the gap between HEO and AP.

It's the wider point I was making.

There is a lot of facetious points and arguments being made on the thread using CO salaries to play poormouth.

If the lowest paid grade, and by no means a representative one, in an organization is constantly used as a benchmark then the narrative will always be skewed.

There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that one grade or position in an organization is usually the starting point for many with promotion equally, if not moreso, important for improving one's lot than wage increases.

The National Cyber Security Centre is using Engineer grades and nothing requiring any craft cert.

Lots of "whoosing" and emojis.

You might be confusing Public and Civil Service but again, you can't be using the salary of 12k COs to claim anything representative on a deal that applies to almost 400k.

Ictu are calling for increases of 4 - 6% in the private sector to help catch up on Inflation but are happy for public service to get less.

We're getting 4.25% this year. Lower paid workers getting a higher percentage.

The recommended pay rise for the private sector matches pretty much what the public sector is. Shocker....

To the best of my knowledge the first installment would be backdated to Jan and therefore due to you but open to correction on that

People who leave will be bottom of the list in getting any backdated payments though and it took months to work through the last time.

You'll be at the back of the que. Your file will need to be reopened in payroll and a manual adjustment done.

Its 9.25%.....they spouting out the 10.25% because it looks like its a double digit pay increase.......Our union men looked like idiots today trying to tell us we were getting it but wouldn confirm that we would get it.

Using incorrect mathematical approaches and comparisons. What about those on under 40k? Using your flawed approach, the minimum increase is 3.2%. Others will see a higher increase. Of course, that goes against your narrative so you won't accept it.

Some people are getting a 4.25% rise. Others are getting more. My gross pay will be 4.25% higher on January 1st 2025 compared to January 1st 2024 and thats the easiest comparison to make. My pension will increase in a similar fashion and if something happens my income protection will kick in at that higher rate.

Theres zero surprise from the ICTU statement. Looking for something similar to the PS.