Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

That's the jist yeah.

Well if the 60% are not economic migrants , then what are they? Freeloaders?

Labelling the 60% as economic migrants is a generous description, not an insult.

I'm talking about Drogheda, there was 3 hotels in the town , as of next month there'll be one. Probably the smallest of the 3 is left.

Local fine Gael mayor saying it as it is-

Deputy Mayor of Drogheda Kevin Callan says it will decimate business and tourism in the town.

So what the solution then?

Even if their claim is rejected are you saying we just leave them here even though they have no right to be in this country.

Do you not think if people see there is a good chance they will be let stay here by dumping the passport on the way over and giving no information about where they come from it will only encourage more to do the same?

Evidently the solution is to allow them to stay and give them status here. How that doesn't result in some sort of 'contempt of court' i dunno.

Fair play to you for admitting your mistake. A lot on here would have doubled down, the debate might actually go somewhere if more people would admit when they were wrong.

Worth pointing out that today Irish government is providing accommodation, exclusive accommodation (renting out entire hotels) to IPAs.

Next year, if not this year, government will be reaching out to GPs and offering them crazy money to turn down the general public and only service individuals with IPA docs/designation. Dentist will follow.

Schools will be told (already been told) to accept IPA children and families ahead of Irish families.

If you are still unsure of benefits or drawbacks of taking in 100,000s+ of illegal immigrants just look at Sweden, and other Nordics countries who are notoriously welcoming. They are now actively seeking to deport illegal immigrants. This is a fact. This is not a co incidence, its proof based decision - these people do not "integrate" and they don't want to either (and have very little incentive also). They want to collect the €€€, chill in their premium accommodation with like minded people who speak their language and actually possibly are from their country, and eat breakfast, lunch dinner all sponsored by the local tax payer.

It's an interesting scenario, taking in 100,000+s illegals is one of the very few big events that you can point a finger at and say that's not a good idea. And we already have proof of this from other countries. One will hope that this slow kid that is the Irish government will look abroad soon to "fine tune" their immigration policy. However if healthcare, housing, state sponsored media companies are anything to go by - we may be too late. But here is to hoping.

No.

They are chancers. Most of them coming to get a better life from their crappy economies at home. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

knowing the history of this country it will unfortunately be more than fires next

it's almost like the government is waving two fingers at the voters of the country and the opposition is not much better

we have an obligation to temporarily house genuiune refugees but also to secure our borders - no borders = no country

They are acting like some completely irrational single minded dictatorship. It is both disturbing and fascinating at the same time. Especially when you consider how much effort they go to be sensitive to peoples feelings on almost every other topic.

Ye on this topic, even when your average mother and her daughter are out on the streets in the winter screaming for them to stop what they're doing, they just charge forward regardless and double down. And they have no problem bypassing planning laws for this, but not for homes, hospitals and badly needed infrastructure.

500 fraudulent illegal asylum males who should have been turned around immediately at the airport for giving their ID to human traffickers will now take up residence in that Drogheda hotel instead of high spending tourists. This is a good outcome for absolutely nobody except the individual hotel owner and the fake refugees who got exactly what they wanted.

Do you expect people to provide evidence of every statement on here.

Rather than trying to stifle the discussion, why don't you just disagree with me or tell me I'm wrong. Not this evidence nonsense.

Yes, one of the highest minimum wages, but also one of the most expensive countries to live in, so that cancels that out. But obviously the cost of living doesn’t affect asylum seekers who come here to work, as they get all their living needs met staying in direct provision, when other working people don’t have the same privilege, thereby undercutting other workers and keeping wages artificially low

What are you going on about?

It was you that said jobs you consider unskilled should be removed from the economy.

I didnt make any comment on who can and cannot do those jobs.

As long as they are legally able to work in ireland and are paid minimum wage, I am happy.

I have no care which country they come from, although I suspect you do.

You sound like you're suggesting the arson attacks are justified. These attacks are being carried out by criminals, absolute scum of the earth....their opinions or 'concerns' are of no interest to anyone else in the country. Nothing the government has done has caused these lowlifes and wasters to start fires.