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The D Hotel, Drogheda to house international protection applicants

  • 15-02-2024 12:20am
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    Registered Users Posts: 8 makeitcount


    Reading on X about how one of Drogheda's largest hotels, The D Hotel, is to be used as accommodation for people seeking international protection, and some of the comments say across from that on Merchant's Quay a new direct provision centre for 500 people is scheduled.

    I am about to buy an apartment on Merchant's Quay and now I am not so sure. 1000+ people, no matter the race, in one area alone is a lot of people.

    Of course there are pros and cons, the apartment is affordable, but am now second guessing purchasing there. Any thoughts?




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I'd say that apartment is about to become even more affordable.

    The new DP centre could just be rumour though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Devastating for the town. Every town needs a good hotel and with the West Court already used for Ukrainians this is a massive blow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    There must be a point where local businesses start to lobby the govt and local councils for reversals of these decisions, or at least compensation from the state.



  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭holliehobbie


    The arsonists will be out in force again then, unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭scottser


    Don't worry, one of the lads will be along to burn it down soon.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭dublincc2


    It’s going to be burned down. I just hope that nobody is hurt. Will be quite a sight, it’s a tall enough building so flames/smoke will be visible from a distance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    I was thinking that myself. This could result in a massive bonfire in drogheda. Set by none other than the ole “far right”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I would be pretty sure such a prominent hotel in the town centre will be watched by security, 24 hours a day, to stop any arson attempt from here on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Watched by individuals who ... believe that 100,000s+ illegals coming into a country of 5mil is sound? Country that has housing, healthcare and police recruitment crises? I think it would be easier to point out what Ireland has been doing right over the last 36 months.

    Or who get paid 20 euros per hour to look at a screen?

    I think its imminent, but probably wont get to that as too much pushback will be had starting tomorrow evening. Hopefully and thankfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    What do you mean by pushback?

    I cant see the decision beimg reversed if thats what you mean. Contracts are signed now.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Only last week I had noticed that all of the metal bollards had been replaced at the entrance, so restricting any vehicle getting close to the door. This is a very different scenario to any of the other arson attacks. A modern building in a busy area, with money behind the ownership to ensure that the contract proceeds. There may be protests alright, but it will push through.

    As a sidenote, I know people who moved into the town pre pandemic and still can't get on the books of a local GP service. Are they going to boost local doctors as part of the 'well planned preparation'?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yep. Any arson attack here would be spotted & halted.

    It is a different scenario than a remote, rural building with little vested interest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    I am yet to hear of a place in Ireland that has GPs who welcome new customers with open arms.

    Unfortunately by looks of things our hotels are contracted away first, followed by school places and GPs. I've heard of a full hospital emergency department sitting there waiting for hours to be seen, only for a Ukrainian girl to walk in with high temperature, walk past the plebs and be seen straight away. I ve heard this from individual who was sitting in the room. Jaw dropped upon witnessing proceedings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    It sounds like you are reassuring yourself.

    Its 2024, Ireland, every empty building, shed, has vested interest. I would argue rural buildings have more vested interest as placing illegals in those would not damage business scene of a local town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Drog79


    There will be no preparation.

    You can't find or move doctor.

    School places already difficult.

    Centre of the town already a scum pit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Please do not buy. Fecking buy anything else anywhere else, just not something from across the road of a habitat of 500 Algerian, Georgian and Congolese single men.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    A town centre hotel in the largest town in the country will have much better security and more vested interest than a rural outpost.

    It is highly unlikley to be burnt down and hopefully nobody tries, obviously.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    It sounds like you hope 500 illegals immigrants get in there safely and stay for years to come. Care to explain how this will contribute to Drogheda's economic and social prosperity, and eventual push to get that city designation?

    Alternatively just say you don't like fires and be done with it. If Dublin city riots are anything to go by then even most central street in the country is Not safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I didnt say it was good for Drogheda. I said quite the opposite.

    In relation to the arson, I pointed out its less likley to happen in a large town and i hope it doesnt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    With all due respect, someone is feeding you ****.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Some absolute odd balls already hanging around the streets across from this hotel. I can't imagine the pubs in that part of town are too happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I would love to know how the initial contact and first point of call happens between hotels and the department.


    Who rings who? How does each party know the other one is interested?

    It stinks of corruption at the highest level. Millions and millions of taxpayers money been spent everyday without any forensic accounting.

    As the head of the hoteliers said a few weeks ago, hotels have been lucky and very fortunate that there is a war in Ukraine.

    No need to say anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,362 ✭✭✭✭endacl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭positron


    Towns getting poorer with this move, AND a fresh wave of xenophobia.

    Sh1te news all around for the non-EU folks living in Drogheda for yonks. :/





  • This is the new form of business, the hotel owners will rake it in.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Leave Paddy McCabe alone,he an icon of the town!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Jonathan2712


    Or he is making it up to push his own agenda. Either way, it certainly never happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭enricoh


    I'd advise you to sit in your car tomorrow evening and Saturday and observe the area. I wouldn't advise living there tbh.

    The block next door was gutted for 10 years after being burnt out in Nigeria v Lithuania culture clash. Homeless aid just around the corner n lot of drinking druggies along the river.

    Throw 500 asylum seekers each side of the river into the mix now also. Having kids I'd live in a tent in a bog first!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 makeitcount


    Thanks, it's a shame as I am about to sign the contract, but am reading so much negative stuff. What happened to all the positive? I thought Drogheda was the Irish town/city to watch. A picturesque medieval town that you can walk through easliy, friendly people, incredible history, architecture, close to the airport etc. etc. I also thought Drogheda was earmarked for big tech, which would create lots of jobs making it an attractive place for investors. College is growing, bringing students in who add lots of life to any town, and then of course there's the proximity to Belfast and Dublin.. and the coast! I thought living along the river would be a good place to set up a home, and that the apartment's value would increase. I'm sure the DHotel will revert back to a tourist hotel in time, and until then it's important to help and house those that need it.

    I don't have a crystal ball but I wonder what's in store for Drogheda over the next 5 - 10 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Boxcar_Willie


    Biggest town in the country left with no hotel .

    Fighting for city status and now have no hotel .

    LMFM couldn’t get a govt rep on their radio programme this morning , all left to local councillors to take the flak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭positron


    Earmarked for big tech ended up as a big AWS data centre. There's serious neglect towards Drogheda and it's been the case for decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭gipi


    And the college you mention is a further education facility with links to other universities. There is no college per se in Drogheda.

    I've lived in Drogheda for almost 20 years, I came here just as the town was beginning to boom. Sadly, it's gone way downhill since those heady days, and the loss of the tourist dollar will have a huge impact - it'll close the few amenities that are left, I fear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭jim-mcdee


    Personally that area and those apartments would not be attractive to me because of the traffic in that area and slightly run down , however they are in the center of town so if you are working in the town itself it could be very convenient. If it suites your needs I wouldn't let the hotel put me off. You probably wont even notice them there. The town is already full of eastern Europeans, don't see another 500 immigrants making a big difference. If you are looking for capital appreciation, I think Drogheda is as good as any, though obviously the ship has somewhat sailed 10 years ago for capital appreciation. You could always look for 10k off the price if you are thinking of pulling out anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭jim-mcdee


    Boyne Valley? Scholars? Glenside? Not hotels??



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    Folks, only post confirmed reports not rumours or hearsay. Give links to reputable sources where you have them, if you don't then don't post.

    In these situations there are so many lies spread about by thise with an agenda its easy to get fooled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,487 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Don't be ridiculous, I wouldn't worry about it. I live beside a big DP centre in Dublin, I have never noticed anyone causing any trouble. I'm sure it'll be the same if this goes ahead in Drogheda. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that the people you need to watch out for the most in Ireland are our own scumbags, the vast majority of immigrants be they asylum seekers or not don't seem to go looking for trouble. Something like 20% of our population is now foreign born so of course there'll be a few bad eggs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23 wavyhair


    The Boyne Valley and The Glenside are not in the centre of the town they are not within walking distance. The D Hotel was a perfect location for people who don't have transport. A lot of tourists arrive directly to the bus and train station both of which are within easy walking distance of The D and The Westcourt. Scholars of course is in the centre of the town but nowhere near as big as either of the other hotels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's a good town if you live in a housing estate far away from the **** hole town centre. It's a dump and 1,000 extra international scammers won't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    M&S recently closed also I believe.

    Its a good commuter location for Dublin and Belfast and close to the sea.

    I dont know if there are any major job investments planned?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Is the D hotel currently open?

    What happens the staff - I assume they all lose their jobs now. We really have a **** government that **** on its own hard working people.

    The staff lose their jobs, the locals lose a hospitality venue, the hotel owners earn more than they ever did from being open to the public and asylum seekers get comfortable accommodation for free! Its doesnt make sense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Glenside a brisk walk into town I suppose. Stick down city north while yer at it sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭whippet


    I'm living just outside of Drogheda for the last 12 years and its decline has been steady over that decade.

    the exit of M&S from Laurence street will be the last nail in the coffin for that place and it will probably resemble the shambles that the Abbey Centre is now within a few years.

    the removal of the only substantial hotel in the town and its proximity to Scotch Hall will affect footfall which will lead to other retail tenants closing doors and it could well go down the same route.

    narrow west street is a shambles

    there is almost nothing appealing about the town now and aside from the odd pub / coffee shop there is nothing to make anyone want to spend any more time than is absolutely necessary around the place

    the fact that a massive oil leaking lump of rust can take centre stage in the middle of the Boyne at the heart of the town is the poster of how Drogheda is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,885 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    An award winning luxury 4 star hotel for them.

    Nice…, what a time to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Drogheda is a commuter suburb subject to the needs of Dublin. And if those needs require asylum accomm., well so be it I guess. The local public reps have been bypassed and the deal done. Better there I suppose with access to more services than a regional town/ village elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭gipi


    What services?

    Can't get a GP, schools are full, shops are closing, hospital is overloaded, public transport is about all the place has these days.

    I can see the town and environs becoming like Tallaght was - lots of houses, and little else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭combat14


    the backlash against this should be ferocious its an absolute disgrace



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I've been out of Drogheda for the past 10 years and every time I visit it's just worse. There are zero initiatives to make the town better and every initiative is geared towards moving people out of the town center towards the retail parks.

    Narrow west st is completely abandoned.

    The Abbey shopping centre is closed.

    West St has casinos, charity shops, pound shops and the largest nail salon I've ever seen.

    Scotch Hall and the Lawrences never recovered after 2008. That building site at the back of Scotch Hall has been abandonned for the better part of 15 years and nothing was done with it.

    I've friends who live just outside Drogheda, and it's quicker to drive to the Pavillions in Swords than get parking in the town centre.

    The mismanagement of Drogheda is near criminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,497 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    No ones going to burn down a massive modern hotel



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