Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Mistyping and knowing the definition of words are different. What planet are you trying to save if want to support somebody actively trying not to recycle?

Oh I know! I try not to engage with the trolls.

Your nonsense is wasted on me Ray. I'm not 12 and nor am I so thin-skinned as to be offended by a randomer on the Internet.

My choices have nothing to do with "rebellion and power" and everything with how I choose to spend my time and effort. For €10 I cam dispose of 7/8 general waste bags at the local landfill - an operation that takes about 5 minutes from arrival to departure and I have no rubbish or bins that I've no space for anyway cluttering up my home.

What I save on bin charges alone will more than cover 2/3 months of "deposits" and my time is more valuable to me than the effort I would spend claiming back 1.50/2 Euro a week - a single retail-priced 500ml of Coke would cover that.

Your complete overreaction and lashing out however suggests an insecurity that probably will only be exacerbated by trying to engage with people who disagree with you. I grant you it's a common enough thing nowadays but ultimately, as I said, wasted on me and probably most in this thread from what I see.

Enjoy your evening!

Used one of the micro-machines that isn't actually listed on the website (still - its been there since day 1) for the first time.

Noisy bastard compared to the big ones (probably no space for sound insulation), wouldn't want to have one near me if working in a very small convenience store. Particularly noisy on mincing up PET.

That would have lead to massive hoarding and a huge amount of refunds being given for items with no deposit.

Considering there's about 1m a day in deposits being paid in, a six month transfer period could have had over 100m worth of barcoded, valid, but no deposit cans out and about and loads of people aware that they will get something by hoarding.

Some people are clearly very passionate about this scheme and are not seeing the flaws others have pointed out.

I think most reasonable people will see it for what it is - a waste of their time or money, and all for no advantage to them or “the environment”. It’s punishment for all - especially those who already recycled everything possible.

This is not going to drive up our recycling rates. In fact, it will probably have the opposite effect. Plus bin charges likely now to increase because of it.

The existence of this scheme is telling us that green/blue bin recycling is not good enough.

I'm already thinking what's the point for existing recycling. If something is too much effort for me to wash out for recycling now, sorry - but it's going in the black bin. Recycing is only getting incinerated/going to landfill/going to some 3rd world county anyways.

Well, that ain't my problem. Sort this out and you have your solution.

Christ almighty what side of the bed did you get out this morning? OK you don't agree with someone's perspective. Get over it

That's not what I said about how the price was displayed in store.

I only had one DRS item, but the receipt lists one Deposit paid @.25c and a total sum of the same amount.

I don't think Lidl would be non-compliant. However, I think their new digital price signs are very poorly designed with the bad design impacting on legibility of unit of measurement price per kg/per litre. It's tiny.

"Considering there's about 1m a day in deposits being paid in"

What?? Where did you get this figure? If true and I kinda doubt it, it's an absolute scandal as the bulk of these will never see a RVM machine. Money for old rope. Where is Foley these days? Gone very quiet on the media, must be too busy counting the dosh and collecting the 'litter' left behind at his machines.

So did you misrepresent the current reality then so when you stated above "Considering there's about 1m a day in deposits being paid in....."

Was there €1m paid in deposits yesterday or any of the previous 13 days?

Local shop here with re turn machine on cleaning and out of service anytime I look at it.

It appears the non franchise retailers are just going to make it as hard as possible to return to avoid the hassle of it.

The cheerleaders here for the scheme some of which are either in the industry or related to it like to talk down to anyone who might question the scheme by calling them angry men so they sit well on their high horses.

If you've bought an rVM makes no sense not to make sure its working. You are getting paid for every bottle that comes back as the retailer

Hello guys, just got back. Went to Lidl earlier to feed the RVM a bunch of cans, and have some interesting update.

Redeemed fed the machine 2 giant bags of cans and got €11.70! sadly no camera this time, but to make up for it i do have a story/update on the whole "trash bags of recyclables being left behind" situation that most people on here were expressing concerns about.

Anyway there was a couple cans left in my bag that the machine would'nt accept, like about roughly just 10 cans give or take.

i was talking to one of the staff and inquired if there would be any plans for bins to be placed near there in the future for rejected cans/bottles. he told me he had no idea and that i can "just leave (my) bag near the machine, aslong as there's nothing leaking in the bag it should be grand so" i told him no thanks and said that i don't feel comfortable just leaving my cans behind, and i don't think other people should be doing it either. he said to me "thats not your problem so don't worry about it, we'll get around to sorting it". i left with my cans, passed by a few hours later and still seen one of the other bags someone had left there earlier.

Going by what they told me, it's their problem and we shouldnt worry about it, and should just let them deal with it? or perhaps this one worker does'nt speak for behalf of the whole store? what do you think?

After talking to some people about this it turns out they had been getting the same similar answers from other staff members too. Perhaps this is just the one particular store, or applies to all stores? still quite the puzzler.

it feels like dropping the bags off is the way to go, unless they say otherwise. or begin putting up no dumping signs. Until then its kind of assumed its allowed and all good. i guess its personal choice, until they decide to give a policy surrounding it. or a bin.