General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

80% possession and only one shot (at the 45th minute) to show for it.

Desperate stuff... both Fernández and Caicedo brutal..

That Chelsea chant gets a bit irritating after 10,000 repetitions.

Dean Henderson & Joachim Andersen are 2 players that have received plaudits in the past. I thought the two of them were really poor for those 2 goals at the end. Both quick to be shouting the blame at others too.

What does the second number mean, eg Burnley (55/-25)?

It's the wrong week to be selling Moyes and Roy's version of football I think. Chelsea's possession football paid off last night eventually, and they're not a good side themselves

I see where Palace are going to replace Hodgson with Oliver Glasner. And then this morning's press conference was cancelled because Hodgson became ill. Hopefully it's only a smokescreen and Hodsgon isn't actually ill,and they didn't want him facing questions,if a move is imminent.

Probably just sick of Jordan and his BS.

Not going to ballyrag Hodgson, but there is a serious amount of talent about that club. Their academy is very productive, and they have South London pretty much to themselves, a huge catchment with a good demographic. There are some very talented attacking players there, they just need a coach that knows how to use them.

He was the wrong appointment IMHO - whatever about him doing a really short term gig, but they had no business giving him a longer contract given the type of squad they have.

They pay well enough, commonly quoted about 11th or 12th in the wage bill league table, so they should broadly follow this level.

Plenty of talent there, likes of Eze, Guiha, Olise, Marteta off the top of my head are good players, Decoure is another one, there are a few more too, along with a few more seasoned campaigners that can do a job in the EPL, along with as I say a good academy providing more raw material all the time.

Im not calling for Roy's head at all, but he's not making par at the moment, and I'd argue the club would have been better served with a more progressive coach when he was appointed full time.

I said there is plenty of talent there, and they babe have a productive academy. The lads you mentioned haven't all come through the academy, but they are in the right age category and are all good players, certainly good enough to be comfortably at tip half of the table even if not at champions league level. They have done well at academy levels in recent years, and geographically are positioned very well if they continue to tap that resource well.

They have the potential to be a very exciting club, but with Jordan at the top and Roy on the sideline I feel they have maxed out. They will both take the age option every time, so will always tend to flit in and around the Relegation zone. Now and again they might reach 9th or 10th, but they are as likely to drop to 18tb or 19th, and will eventually get caught out.

What lads did I mention that came through the academy?

I asked you to name the academy graduates making an impact outside of Tyreek Mitchell.

Where did I say about academy players making a big impact? I said about good, talented young players, and that they have a good academy, you're mixing up the 2. They have a decent and relatively expensive squad there, they should be in the bunch chasing down the fringe European places, and/or getting good cup runs, but instead they seem happy threading water and raking in the tv money.

I happen to think that they should be doing better as a club, and that while the manager is one part of this, the owner and top management is too. They have shown little ambition. They brought in Viera but lost their nerve (perhaps rightly) and went back to the perceived safety of Roy. The aim seems to be to finish 17th and little more. Looks to me they are happy at that - I don't understand that mentality myself but there you go.

I still say there is huge potential in that club.

Yea, typo, Steve Parish of course. That makes all the difference to the substantive point though, well done.

if anyone is around dundrum today, the PL trophy is on display in easons. you can take pictures with it and they are giving away some sort of PL magazine.

it has the city ribbons on it so fair warning!

ETA: only runs till 12 so you have 15 mins.

i saw the one in easons! i imagine the one in dundrum is some sort of replica

How if there a yellow for the foul on Bradley?

Liverpool winning but this is a good game for city and Arsenal

Potentially dreadful day for Liverpool. They have so many games that they can’t afford 3 more injuries.