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Protest in Hungary over presidential pardon given to accomplice in child sex abuse case

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    It's kinda outside this country and not relevant to ordinary peoples lives here? There's a range of other topics occupying peoples thoughts here on a daily basis in my experience.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    So why are you wasting your time posting on here?

    Amd why do you bother posting on the Russia thread?

    As an ordinary person, I was looking to fly to Budapest in the next day or three. Something to do like this definitely would be of relevance to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,945 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    God I hope this is the end of Orban



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Because I'm interested in Current Affairs. I suppose if it has a detrimental effect on Orbán, it may be of wider relevance. But it will take a lot more than a few crooked local officials to get rid of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    There were protests about this last week also and has lead to the resignation of the Hungarian president for their issuing the pardon and another of Orbans allies.

    This weeks protest are expected to be larger, but it isn't a current affairs issue if it is someone that some admire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    NATO aggression strikes again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, Orban himself is a crooked official. I look forward to the day where he is eventually ousted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭francois


    This is interesting, as Fidez promote themselves and Hungry as "family friendly" (code for we don't like LGBTQ) Orban typically trying to distance himself, but must be looking over to see what happened to PiS in Poland. Hopefully the beginning of the end of him. A former communist party apparatchik turned wannabe despot, what a surprise.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,381 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Orban's state of the nation address today made a fairly brief mention of it, I think they're still hoping it will all blow over

    In his speech commemorating the 25th anniversary of his inaugural address to the nation during his initial term as prime minister in 1999, Orbán promptly acknowledged President Katalin Novák's recent resignation, saying that 2024 "could not have begun any worse" and characterising her departure as a "nightmare" for the nation.


    International news organisations, including The Associated Press, and Hungary's independent media outlets were barred from attending the address.

    Orbán tried to mitigate concerns regarding the scandal, which has rocked his nationalist Fidesz party in recent weeks, affirming that Novák had made the right decision by stepping down.


    He remarked, "Novák’s resignation was 'correct, but a big loss for Hungary,'" asserting that her decision was necessary in the circumstances. "What happened is what needed to happen in this situation. Good people also make bad decisions."


    https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/17/orban-addresses-hungary-in-first-appearance-since-countrys-president-quit-in-a-scandal


    He also offered up a bit of a distraction, saying Hungary could (not would) ratify Sweden's NATO membership on Feb 26th when their parliament reconvenes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭francois


    His NATO ploy was as transparent distraction as Putin wanting Biden as president. He's not particularly subtle as a politician.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Has there ever been a right wing political populist movement, that hasn't yet been guilty of that which they hurl as accusations to silence others?

    Without my being so reductive as going straight to Godwinning the thread, it really is astonishing how often those who seek to impose family values, morality and draped in religion. Always seem to come undone by their own abeyance of the rules they seek to impose.

    Orban and Fidesz have had a remarkable run under Orban. Moreso given the party was originally centre left. It is a party that has captured an outright majority of votes and seats in Hungary. Can it's political popularity survive the fall out of the pardons? Can Orban manage to take control of the expanding scandal and fall out?

    I don't know enough about Hungarian politics to opine a way past this. I do have a couple of Magyar friends who are very anti-Orban but, that's as much a reflection of their liberalism as it is Orban's policies. Can organised protest, pressure and further resignations force an election? Even if it can, are the parties opposing Fidesz in any fit state to take advantage?

    Fidesz have become embedded and their policies and attitudes have to date, often enjoyed popular support. There needs to be some soul searching and a reset.



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