Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

If Mr Byrne here is so concerned about IPAs sleeping in tents on the street, perhaps he could go further than this faux concern for them and provide his 78-bed facility free of charge to those IPAs he's so obviously worried about?

Not a chance though, is there?

Of all the hotels around the country who have magically converted to IPA housing, how many have had:

• Grants or incentives to build their hotels in the first place
• Bail out for the developers when it all went breasts up in 2010
• Availed of Covid-19 payments
• Now coining it handsomely from housing IPAs

How much more money do these absolute leeches need from the Irish taxpayer?

Mr. Byrne here and his ilk have a neck like a jockey's bollox.

I can't get a house. Been saving ages, have a good job and girlfriend is a teacher. Entire life on hold really — marriage, kids etc until we can get something sorted. Am I angry about that situation? Yes.

But, like most Irish people in my scenario (appreciating its not the same for all), I at least have somewhere to go if I really need to. Whether it's parents or friends or just coughing up rent, the strong likelihood is that I'd never be left in a position of having absolutely nowhere to go except the streets or a shelter.

Ukrainian refugees have left their homes and livelihoods behind. They aren't arriving here on an equal footing to most of us and so "equality" doesn't always mean that they should simply not get certain services or things for free or subsidised for a while just because we don't get them.

Like I'm not saying that a spend of €xyz is proportionate or an efficient use of money — I'm not saying that these shouldn't be reduced if there is not some form of solid reasoning for them. But 'equality' is nuanced when you are starting from different footholds.

Morning Ireland had a similar vox pop but seemed to find more sympathetic locals, several who referenced Irish emigrants

the first paragraph says it all:

"I can't get a house. Been saving ages, have a good job and girlfriend is a teacher. Entire life on hold really — marriage, kids etc until we can get something sorted."

that is exactly what will guide young voters for right or wrong in the next election, countless "applicants" with no accommodation is only fuel on the fire

it is certainly a start in the right direction and will help restart our tourism industry too

In that article yesterday, Róisín McAleer of Social Rights Ireland an activist with group criticized the IPO practice of “allowing” asylum seekers to sleep rough despite there being “thousands of empty homes and buildings” in the State. McAleer said it was not right to expose vulnerable people “to the harsh threats of the elements, to the dangerous threats and abuse of passersby, and to the violent threats and harassment of racists”.

Today, Kitty Holland in another article: ‘They told me there is no space but I see all these empty places in Dublin. There is no mercy’ International protection applicants are arriving to find themselves living on the street. But ‘at least there are no bullets’. She spoke to two men in their 20's who gave their names as Ahmed and Ahmadullah, who were helped by other men who were already here, all asylum seekers. The two arrived on Monday after a “long journey”, having come from the United Kingdom.” These shoppers are being coached by the likes of McAleer and propagated by Kitty Holland who created a hoax story about an attack on a camp last year that never happened. At times I think Holland just submits her own Dear Diary moments.

and they are only in the door 3 seconds and they have their own solicitor!!!!!! you couldn't make it up its a whole parasitic industry

Well its not just Ukrainians and most of who I witnessed were of African origin, most likely Sudanese based on the womens attire.

Dont think there are direct flights from Sudan to Dublin....so how are they here.

In terms of equality Im talking services provided. You buy a house in a small town in the country lets say Kildare and you arent a local, you will find it nigh on impossible to find a GP that will accept you or a dentist.

Start a family, kids go to school, ypi and your spouse work, the school is in the opposite direction of your commute to work, a school bus would be ideal but youre told there isnt the resources for it and pool together with other parents and get quotes to hire one privately and rhe cost is astronomical so pointless..so you slog away too poor to be rich too rich to be poor but others land here and within hours have access to all that you cant have..........that kind of equality

Person.

Would not watch a video about him.

Listened to him pontificating enough more times then I care to remember.

Oh I have spoken to many refugees and asylum seekers. I'm aware that many towns are struggling and have been very welcoming. Your point that the UN is siding with a lot of Irish protesters is not relevant at all and completely untrue.

And yet..

Other posters are annoyed people are being given bus transport from these ' dives' to shop for provisions?

Which is it?

That'll create an even bigger pull factor for the economic refugees.

Hell I'd apply to be a refugee in my own country if that was the case (I'd probably be successful too)

I can see why you are so bitter about it.

That treatment for young families / people looking for housing needs to be stopped.

It has been going on for years now.

But directing your anger at other people is not the way to go.

Where are our ministers gone?

Minister for Housing rarely if ever appears in public except to cut a ribbon.

Minister Butler rarely pops up because older peoples and mental health sevices are detrriorating under her care.

Minister Donnelly has been silent for the last 6 months.

Minister Catherine Martin never says a word about hotels being used for refugees.

The only ones who ever say anytjing are McEntee and O'Gorman and Ryan and god knows maybe they need to ask somebody else to talk fir a while.

The cute silent hoors will be voted back in because in people's memories " they didn't do or say anything wrong." not " they didn't do any thing!"

Just No, there are enough pull factors as it is