Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

There's no maybe about it. A number of protests have called for refugees/asylum seekers to go home and have screamed intimidatingly "out out out" at a lot of the accomodation.

It’s one of the main talking points in many cases. The UN are more closely aligned with the bulk of protesters now than the government, that should tell you something.

Not at all. The UN would be concerned with humanitarianism, dignity, human rights. Vast majority of protesters wouldn't give a crap about any of those.

Wrong. The vast majority of protesters In rural areas deeply care about those things. As with the UN the rural locals see how the asylum seekers are being denied that by the government. Dumping people in dives with no supports is not humanitarianism. The locals have supported asylum seekers in many areas that have been abandoned by the government.

Packrat is correct, I could take pics/videos but I wouldn't and not because its non factual but I wouldnt like myself or doings recorded. Nor am I villifying the refugees as its no fault of their own to be in the position they are in.

My question is one of transparency. Who pays, how much is paid, how long does payment last etc.

Ive kids both school going and adult. They dont gwt free shuttle services. Older ones cant get on the property ladder.

Where's the equality

If Mr Byrne here is so concerned about IPAs sleeping in tents on the street, perhaps he could go further than this faux concern for them and provide his 78-bed facility free of charge to those IPAs he's so obviously worried about?

Not a chance though, is there?

Of all the hotels around the country who have magically converted to IPA housing, how many have had:

• Grants or incentives to build their hotels in the first place
• Bail out for the developers when it all went breasts up in 2010
• Availed of Covid-19 payments
• Now coining it handsomely from housing IPAs

How much more money do these absolute leeches need from the Irish taxpayer?

Mr. Byrne here and his ilk have a neck like a jockey's bollox.

I can't get a house. Been saving ages, have a good job and girlfriend is a teacher. Entire life on hold really — marriage, kids etc until we can get something sorted. Am I angry about that situation? Yes.

But, like most Irish people in my scenario (appreciating its not the same for all), I at least have somewhere to go if I really need to. Whether it's parents or friends or just coughing up rent, the strong likelihood is that I'd never be left in a position of having absolutely nowhere to go except the streets or a shelter.

Ukrainian refugees have left their homes and livelihoods behind. They aren't arriving here on an equal footing to most of us and so "equality" doesn't always mean that they should simply not get certain services or things for free or subsidised for a while just because we don't get them.

Like I'm not saying that a spend of €xyz is proportionate or an efficient use of money — I'm not saying that these shouldn't be reduced if there is not some form of solid reasoning for them. But 'equality' is nuanced when you are starting from different footholds.

Morning Ireland had a similar vox pop but seemed to find more sympathetic locals, several who referenced Irish emigrants

the first paragraph says it all:

"I can't get a house. Been saving ages, have a good job and girlfriend is a teacher. Entire life on hold really — marriage, kids etc until we can get something sorted."

that is exactly what will guide young voters for right or wrong in the next election, countless "applicants" with no accommodation is only fuel on the fire

it is certainly a start in the right direction and will help restart our tourism industry too

In that article yesterday, Róisín McAleer of Social Rights Ireland an activist with group criticized the IPO practice of “allowing” asylum seekers to sleep rough despite there being “thousands of empty homes and buildings” in the State. McAleer said it was not right to expose vulnerable people “to the harsh threats of the elements, to the dangerous threats and abuse of passersby, and to the violent threats and harassment of racists”.

Today, Kitty Holland in another article: ‘They told me there is no space but I see all these empty places in Dublin. There is no mercy’ International protection applicants are arriving to find themselves living on the street. But ‘at least there are no bullets’. She spoke to two men in their 20's who gave their names as Ahmed and Ahmadullah, who were helped by other men who were already here, all asylum seekers. The two arrived on Monday after a “long journey”, having come from the United Kingdom.” These shoppers are being coached by the likes of McAleer and propagated by Kitty Holland who created a hoax story about an attack on a camp last year that never happened. At times I think Holland just submits her own Dear Diary moments.

and they are only in the door 3 seconds and they have their own solicitor!!!!!! you couldn't make it up its a whole parasitic industry

Well its not just Ukrainians and most of who I witnessed were of African origin, most likely Sudanese based on the womens attire.

Dont think there are direct flights from Sudan to Dublin....so how are they here.

In terms of equality Im talking services provided. You buy a house in a small town in the country lets say Kildare and you arent a local, you will find it nigh on impossible to find a GP that will accept you or a dentist.

Start a family, kids go to school, ypi and your spouse work, the school is in the opposite direction of your commute to work, a school bus would be ideal but youre told there isnt the resources for it and pool together with other parents and get quotes to hire one privately and rhe cost is astronomical so pointless..so you slog away too poor to be rich too rich to be poor but others land here and within hours have access to all that you cant have..........that kind of equality

Person.

Would not watch a video about him.

Listened to him pontificating enough more times then I care to remember.

Oh I have spoken to many refugees and asylum seekers. I'm aware that many towns are struggling and have been very welcoming. Your point that the UN is siding with a lot of Irish protesters is not relevant at all and completely untrue.