Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

And yet..

Other posters are annoyed people are being given bus transport from these ' dives' to shop for provisions?

Which is it?

That'll create an even bigger pull factor for the economic refugees.

Hell I'd apply to be a refugee in my own country if that was the case (I'd probably be successful too)

I can see why you are so bitter about it.

That treatment for young families / people looking for housing needs to be stopped.

It has been going on for years now.

But directing your anger at other people is not the way to go.

Where are our ministers gone?

Minister for Housing rarely if ever appears in public except to cut a ribbon.

Minister Butler rarely pops up because older peoples and mental health sevices are detrriorating under her care.

Minister Donnelly has been silent for the last 6 months.

Minister Catherine Martin never says a word about hotels being used for refugees.

The only ones who ever say anytjing are McEntee and O'Gorman and Ryan and god knows maybe they need to ask somebody else to talk fir a while.

The cute silent hoors will be voted back in because in people's memories " they didn't do or say anything wrong." not " they didn't do any thing!"

Just No, there are enough pull factors as it is

Its not that the UN are siding with Irish protesters, it's that the bulk of rural protesters and the UN are now aligned on many opinions. Both are strongly against current government policies and recognise those policies as abuse of asylum seekers.

The rural areas will continue to support asylum seekers in the absence of government supports. When the pro government counter protesters leave after a protest, having helped no one, the local anti government policy protesters continue to support the asylum seekers.

It's a lot more complex than that. The travelling far right circus who descend on towns to spread poisonous hate rhetoric exist too.

People protest for differing reasons. I think it's a massive oversimplification to say that rural protesters and the UNHCR are completely aligned on these issues.

You claimed that rural protesters are calling for regulation of accomodation. Never seen that anywhere. I think you are really trying to create something out of nothing to say that rural protesters and UNHCR are in agreement. UNHCR really has VERY differing views.

If you were making a dangerous journey to a foreign country where you were not sure would you be accepted or not would you bring a wife and probably young children ?

Maybe , but also maybe not .

To say that leaving them behind while you apply for asylum in your choice of country....yes choice , because it is an asylum seekers right to choose where they wish to seek asylum ...is wrong is not your decision really.

And how desperate are these people to flee a regime that they do leave their families and come here to a rent on a street?

Many countries send their men on ahead and follow later as many Irish have done before.

You will say , ah here we are with the Irish emigrants ..different ...long time ago...something excuse something .

But it is not that long ago . Many of us had fathers and uncles illegal over in the US and elsewhere , sending money back home , unable to come home for family occasions , and trying to avoid getting caught and deported, up to as recently as the 1990s in my memory anyhow .

Some came home . Some died alone over there . Others were lucky enough to get citizenship/ greencards and bring their families over to join them .

Get over your privilege and have a bit of humanity .

I really am appalled by all the excuses you and others make to justify the rants against other humans on here .

The above l takes the biscuit for ne .

What world do you live in? I have to be careful not to critcise the poster, so let's just accept that the world of the younger Irish low skilled worker/student worker is a world apart from the employment conditions of those dismissing such concerns here.

Boo hoo, if they wanted a country free from the Taliban they should have stood up to them with the millions in US military equipment they received.

Well, to be fair, RTE, Virgin and Newstalk and much of the Irish Media are in lockstep when it comes to discussing immigration issues. You're hardly going to get an opposing view there. It's what is known as confirmation bias.

I can understand how some folk are easily led astray when they place so much trust in Irish media. It's how the government and indeed the Church have gotten away with so much down through the years.

What's dangerous about a flight from London or Paris? Or the M1 down from Belfast?

They can apply all they like, we have the right to refuse.

Irish people living illegally abroad should be deported - but that is up to the country to deport them.

What is this privilege you speak of? That sounds very like the church lecturing people to 'be grateful for what they have' back in the day. Most people in Ireland have what they have through hard graft and alot of it built too on the backs of generations who went before and worked even harder to build this country up from the ground.

I've checked my privilege and had a good think about the needs of family, neighbours and friends.

And concluded that we simply don't need this immigration boosting our population. Reduce is the first principle of any self respecting Green.

I have no problem with assisting people in other countries so they can develop their own states and make them better places to live.

I have no problem with sheltering genuine war refugees from Ukraine on the strict understanding that they return as soon as practical. When Ukraine is a member of the EU they will be legally entitled to come here but of course by then, we may expect Ukr to be a much better place to live. And who wouldn't want to live in and for their state of birth.

So let's just stop being forced down this road by those who have commercial interests in rising populations.

Irish illegals weren’t given free houses medical cards etc etc it’s actually such an incredibly disingenuous false equivalence. Laughable attempt.

Perhaps you’re too privileged for any of this to ever actually affect you. “Have a bit of humanity” - I had more than plenty and was happy to see our help going to those who need it. Now the likes of yourself who live in a fantasyland where there’s free unlimited everything for everyone have burned all that up. I know your heart’s in the right place and you think you’re doing good, but this kind of pontificating and moral grandstanding to people who are struggling in a country apparently awash with cash does not help your cause one iota. The opposite in fact.

We can’t house the world, we can’t even house ourselves. Take your head out of your arse and live a day in the real world.