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    #105452
    zv2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭zv2


    Uh...

    https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1759145741283475616
    https://twitter.com/SkyAboveUkraine/status/1759142459278508473


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



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    #105453
    ColemanY2K
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    If Russia attacked Poland in an SMO, the Polish 1st Armoured Regiment would be in Moscow within 3 days.

    Putin isn't stupid. Taking the Baltic's is high risk but going near Poland would be suicide for his regime.

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    #105454
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121782263#Comment_121782263

    Have heard it from respected public news sources accessible to anyone so yes, about as reliable as can be



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    #105455
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    Another excellent guardian article about the difficult mood but also the defiance in Ukraine as 2 years approaches:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/18/shock-anger-and-war-fatigue-ukraines-two-years-of-agony




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    #105456
    aidanodr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121783358#Comment_121783358

    "The West needs to get its act together"

    Aside from less weapons due to hold ups in funding from USA ( all on trump, he runs the gop ). You also have a not so fixable issue now coming home to roost for Ukraine. Shortage of manpower. A problem Russia does not have.

    Much of Ukraines troops on frontline have been at this for two years solid and without breaks/recycling. They cannot keep going forever.

    Back to finance / weapons. GOP have said they have no intention of bringing this to the floor .. not before they and the house go on two weeks recess soon.

    So i think with this and with the manpower issues we are reaching a major turning point unfortunately in favour of Putin



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    #105457
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,153 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Events have shown that Ukrainian forces should have pulled back earlier (a few weeks). Especially with their lack of ammunition to leave a mined/booby traped zone for the Russians to advance into..I may be accussed of the benefit of hindsight but it was coming for a while..

    Bleeding the Russians and political advantage wasn't worth it in this case.



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    #105458
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,699 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121783538#Comment_121783538

    If Russia were to attack Poland in a conventional way and NATO A5 invoked, the process would be simple enough. Remove Russian troops from Polish territory by either destroying them and their equipment or forcing them to retreat, then stay put to fend off any regrouped attacks or until a peace treaty is signed. There would be no need to go to Moscow in 3 days.

    It's all moot, anyway. Russia already has all of its resources committed to Ukraine. The idea they could start a fresh invasion of any other country in the time Putin has left on this planet is stretching credulity.



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    #105459
    wildefalcon
    Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    The sensible comments regarding the inability is Russia to manage two fronts are all well reasoned and logical, based on facts.

    Thus can be discounted. We are dealing with a sociopathic delusional and powerful person. He's not going to let facts get in the way.



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    #105460
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭macraignil


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121783450#Comment_121783450

    "Shortage of manpower. A problem Russia does not have."

    How do you know putin is not having a manpower shortage? Seen recent news that Nepal has requested its citizens recruited to fight for putin to be returned due their mistreatment and there have been other reports of an uptick in attacks on recruitment offices throughout putins empire recently. There are also the reports of massive numbers of putin's troops being killed by the armed forces of Ukraine trying to defend their country from putin's terrorists:

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    #105461
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I see Putin was mocking Carlson's intelligence. He expected sharper questions. Yet he is afraid to sit down with the likes of the BBC who will give him a proper grilling, unlike Carlson who let him in engage in monologues without interruption. He was openly mocking him during the interview too.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121782300#Comment_121782300

    Saddam's intelligence service used to test if it did within his inner circle by planting the idea of a western coup in the minds of those closest to him. As regards Putin, being en ex spy he is likely even more paranoid. He likely has an insurance policy as you say that if anyone moves against him their nearest and dearest will get it. They also benefit from his rule, so they won't contemplate making a move while that lasts. If the CIA really wanted to they could probably get to him, but given the enormous potential ramifications they will never do it.



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    #105462
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,875 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121783802#Comment_121783802

    Just deny it - he went for a walk & felt ill



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    #105463
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121780991#Comment_121780991

    I wonder could Zaluzhny have the last laugh on Zelensky yet. If Ukraine don't make notable gains this year Zelensky's popularity might well wane domestically.



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    #105464
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784011#Comment_121784011

    Definitely possible. As per the guardian article I posted earlier, there are cracks in Ukraine's political front, also Klitschko basically said Ukraine is now a state in which one man makes almost the decisions and more questions are starting to be asked.

    Zelensky has done a great job so far but patience with him may run out if this year does not go well



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    #105465
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784025#Comment_121784025

    What more can he possibly do to help Ukraine on the battlefield??



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    #105466
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,153 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784011#Comment_121784011

    If they can hold what they have while pounding the Russians especially their oil infrastructure and its earning capacity they will do ok. Wait for the Russians to crack.



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    #105467
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I dunno how the west welcomes every made in China, while China supports Russia. The West have a lot of leverage over China, time to use it. Already I'm seeing BYD cars everywhere



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    #105468
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,339 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784369#Comment_121784369

    Yes and all we are doing in Europe is buying Chinese stuff like their electric cars and putting European manufacturers out of business.


    China of laughing all the way. Worrying times.



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    #105469
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784369#Comment_121784369

    Maybe because everything is made in China, and to China, this war is as far from them as the Iraq war was from us.

    Very few people in Europe were boycotting American products during the second Gulf war.



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    #105470
    highpitcheric
    Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭highpitcheric


    Russia could have kept lukewarm relations with the west, addressed any territorial conflicts with international law, diplomacy, even trade war.

    Yet still could have kept the European fuel market (and kept making a tidy income), stayed free of international sanctions, kept those 250,000 lives, prevented brain drain and worker losses, spent billions less on military, kept their black sea fleet intact. They wouldn't have had to lock up protestors, or fight mysterious fires which keep popping up, or brown nose China. Their oligarch billions wouldn't be frozen. Wagner wouldn't have staged a near coup. And 100 other problems could have been avoided.

    They even could possibly have shmoozed and romanced Ukraine to be their buddy. Now they have a multi generational sworn enemy. (while other powers gain an ally). And no doubt theres been gigantic intel leaking/transfers, to western countries by now, some of their best will have turned their back on the regime out of disgust, others can sense which way the wind is blowing and want to be in the good books, others still can see hot opportunities for quick cash/passports in all the chaos. Before it all falls down.

    All this for marginal territorial gain.

    All that is on one side of the books. And over on this side ... Avdiivka. Ruined hamlet, population 0. No economy.

    What a win.



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    #105471
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784435#Comment_121784435

    I presume in your eyes the Independent is also in on this smear campaign?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-russia-zelensky-klitschko-b2458171.html


    And this outlet too must be pro Kremlin according to you?:

    https://kyivindependent.com/poll-ukrainians-trust-in-zelensky-declines-trust-in-zaluzhnyi-is-high/




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    #105472
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784435#Comment_121784435

    Funny how any facts that diverge from your opinion are labelled propaganda and smearing. Quite similar to the approach the Russian media takes.

    Thankfully, Ukraine is moving towards an open, democratic society where debate and criticism are allowed. Something you seem very uncomfortable with.



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    #105473
    rogber
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭rogber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784134#Comment_121784134

    Probably not much. I also think Zelensky has generally done an excellent job and showed great heroism and did so much to bring Ukraine together and get foreign support.

    I'm merely reporting what's written in reliable sources: politics are moving again in Ukraine and there are some divisions. This is inevitable, especially in a democracy



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    #105474
    ginger22
    Registered Users Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭ginger22


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784454#Comment_121784454

    About the best summation so far and they have forced Ukraine to look westward instead of East.



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    #105475
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121784781#Comment_121784781

    Worth mentioning Russia had a Moscow friendly quisling in charge ...who was then ousted by popular unrest and fled to Russia with a tonne of cash.

    Russia don't do "soft power" or any kind of subtly of romance of neighbours. They lurched form absolutist monarchy to communist dictatorship and so they only understand the stick; carrots are just a root vegetable to them - and Ukraine 2022+ is the chickens coming home to roost. Assuming this story doesn't yet have a depressing ending.



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