Deposit return scheme (recycling)

no i'm not trolling/fabricating/talking shite. let me explain. here's an example of €4.50+ 50cent in deposits rounding club orange to €5 https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/315734827 and here is the thing i'm talking about regarding round prices

https://www.strategy-business.com/blog/The-Psychology-of-Pricing-Customers-Prefer-Round-Numbers "study shows most consumers would rather pay $5.00"

Also regarding what you wrote, would it be fair for me to assume that those people you are mentioning have low-income jobs? You are right about most people using cards for small transactions, but if they forget their card they're gonna have to use cash. And i know a couple of people who hate using money, or who atleast hate getting change and having to bring around small change they get from buying something. They would rather spend the change so they don't have to carry it around and preffer a clean crisp number where they can give the exact amount, or get back a solid number like a euro after handing in a fiver, rather than getting back 1.15 or 1.05. High income people with good high paying jobs often don't care about the little tiny bits of change as it inconveniences them, and quite often give change as a tip to round a whole number, or make use of those donation boxes which are placed conveniently near tills.

People with low incomes however, and penny pinchers would rather save those couple of cents and look for bargains and saving wherever they can. This obviously does'nt apply to them, as they'll instead buy something else or buy the same item elsewhere for cheaper. A Person with higher income does'nt mind paying a few extra cents for a cleaner and easier to handle price/change given (to them cents is nothing).

i know people from both of those catagories, so please don't accuse me of trolling or talking shite. i have more links but i don't wanna spam the boards or derail this any further than its already becoming, so feel free to message me for those.

interesting, not sure if that would work though as i imagine it would require alot of co-operation from many many people to do. i like the idea of it but there are ways around that instead of just having to give up on fizzy drinks completely. People could stick to buying out-of-scope (non return) bottles, or sizes that exceed what the machines can accept (also non return). or glass bottled versions, or any imported versions which are not part of the scheme. Theres still alot of non-return stock floating around.

tesco have alot of their own branded things now labeled with the return logo, but i have yet to see lidl or aldi do the same with their own inhouse branded items.

Manufactures were already annoyed over this scheme in 2021-2023 where they basically gave return the middle finger, but now because of law backing re-turn up, re-turn got away with it.

if this boycott idea you're proposing happened, i believe its the stores that would be up in arms not the manufactures (as they've made their money by selling the stock to the store already). it would take much more than a month, but eventually stores will be desperate to sell their stock the closer it becomes to it's sell by date. Which at that point rather than removing the deposits, they'll reduce their own prices so that they've lost the amount of the deposit, in profit. i order to sell the product. example: pretend i am a shop that bought a can of drink for 20 cent and go on to sell it for €2.15 (including deposit) people boycott, so to suck up the cost of the deposit, i reduce my item down by 15 cent, now selling it for €2 (including deposit). Deposit still exists on it, but my profit on the item is 15 cent less than it would have been.

also the closer to the sell by date = the more desperate the scramble is to sell off the items cheaper. Deposit is mandated by law now, shops will be taking the hits if there was a boycott. its the law that needs to change for this deposit lark to get scrapped.

It is multiples of the rate of inflation.

Family members went up by 3e per month on what was 18e per month.

16% yeah, but then that was cheap to begin with, the going rate where I am is about €25 and that hasn't changed in about 3 years

Was €18 per month.

But, but, but.

There were increases in October 2023

I will meet and defeat this so called champion.

My bins:

2022-140 for 6 months

2023-160 for 6 months

2024-current rate 185 for 6 months

Still, putting them into the recycling bin at the side of my house was working fine.

The old system was working fine for you and for me but it wasn't working overall, a significant amount of people were continuing to put them in general waste or throw them into the ditch

Ya I got a few packs of Sierra Nevada pale ale in there and another off licence that I was charged deposit on, with no label, but went through the machine fine.

Alu is worth about 1 euro a kg as a recycled material

25 euro uptick in the rates over 6 months is say 1 euro a month

two collection a month so 500 grams of alu recovered per collection per household

Standard weight of can is 15 grams so 30 cans every two weeks.

Makes sense when you include the pubs/ restaurant

So yes there is a cost transfer: keep the gel handy

I think pricing transparency is important on this.

The bin companies should show upfront the amount of their increases that is due to DRS.