California woman stabs boyfriend over 100 times after smoking cannabis

Even dabs (80% or more concentrate) don’t turn you into a psychotic boyfriend/dog murder. Sounds more like lawyers doing lawyer things and trying to find the most expedient excuse for their client to get away with murder.

Try a dab sometime you won’t be picking yourself up off the couch much less picking up a knife and stabbing someone 100 times with it. A lot more going on there than being high as balls.

True - but there is such a thing as cannabis psychosis and no one knows who will be susceptible or how it might manifest - to my knowledge there is no dose that is safe for everyone. I'm assuming this case was an incidence of that. According to an article in Nature last year Cannabis Psychosis can occur in 1 in 200 users. That's rather a lot. I can think of 2 people who had an issue with it while I was in college - one who needed to be hospitalised, one who drifted around for a week causing his own little form of mayhem among his friend group that was completely non-violent but seriously damaged his reputation due to things he was saying. There is also the unfortunate fact that those incidents can trigger life long mental health conditions, so the overall long term consequences probably go unassessed - when people present some years later with more severe illness it may not be related back to earlier cannabis use.

Obviously, it's not an issue that visits every user by a long shot, but it can have serious consequences for those it does, and those who fall into the path of someone experiencing the side effects.

Taken together, acute self-limiting psychotic symptoms in the context of cannabis use may occur in about 1 in 200 PWUC's lifetime. Some individuals could be particularly sensitive to the adverse psychological effects of cannabis, such as young individuals or those with pre-existing mental health vulnerabilities.6 Sept 2022

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-022-02112-8#:~:text=Taken%20together%2C%20acute%20self%2Dlimiting,pre%2Dexisting%20mental%20health%20vulnerabilities.

 People with cannabis-induced psychosis are at high risk of progression to a chronic psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia. It has been shown that 1 in 5 people who suffer cannabis-induced psychosis will progress to a schizophrenia diagnosis within 3-4 years24 . 

https://irishpsychiatry.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/The-Effects-of-Cannabis-on-Mental-Health-Information-Sheet-for-Health-Professionals-CPsychI-14.04.21.pdf

None of those studies are going to suggest you become a schizo after a dozen puffs of cannabis.

Didn't a Dublin woman get a murder charge knocked down to manslaughter here because of cannabis psychosis after stabbing a man to death because he parked outside her house and she will spend her 10 year sentance in the central mental hospital instead of a prison cell.

Cannabis-induced psychotic disorder CIPD cant happen within 24 hours of use or can be the result of ongoing use or a sudden increase in potency (as with the woman in the article). It's in the DSM-5.

I've known two people who've been affected by it and it's no joke, really. Both were young men in their late teens, both in their forties now and haven't worked or done anything really since then. One of them had their CIPD continue on into full blown schizophrenia. Both have attempted suicide at least once in very serious ways.

Brushing the potential negative effects of cannabis use off is not the way to go. CIPD is most likely to affect young and/or inexperienced users with low tolerance, so it's worth understanding the risks and, if cannabis is legalised here (which IMO it should be), making sure people have good information about the safest doses and delivery methods to start at, how to most safely increase dosage over time, and what warning signs to look out for in terms of mental health deterioration.

Some/many Irish people will defend alcohol as if criticizing it was somehow attacking national identity. They/we have been completely indoctrinated by the alcohol industry. It's a horrible, dirty dangerous drug that has destroyed so many lives here in horrible subtle ways and horrible brutal ways. Daily, 24x7x365. And that force/economy/entity will absolutely attach anything else that it sees as a threat.

So, by all means attack cannabis, but get off the alcohol love in first. Ireland's call. Paddy's day. Yeah right.

legalise it, and move on, worked for alcohol, people still die both directly and indirectly from its use, but thats what humans do.....

Erm, this was legally obtained?

Reefer Madness

Yup absolutely horrific thing to happen to anyone, she didn't have control obviously. I feel terrible for him but very sorry for her too.

Cannabis (THC) doesnt induce this, either she took more than just weed or the weed she bought was laced with something.

I'm firmly for legal weed

Good luck - I hope it works out well for you. The people who suffer negative outcomes and effects get so little attention, it's really not right.