Triton Novel SR Silent Power Shower

Shandon wrote:

Is this a fair price? Do they use much electricity? Is there less flow during cold weather?

elaverty wrote:

Hi I need to replace my AS 2000 with a Novel SR,,have been pricing and best price I can find is €247,supplied only. Does that seem to be the best price out there,thanks..

elaverty wrote:

Thanks hows this.

The Triton AS200SR is the UK version. It's not supposed to be sold in Ireland & has no warranty in Ireland. The Irish version is the Triton Novel SR. This has a 2 years parts & labour warranty. It's a better looking shower to IMO

I'm sure you have gotten to the bottom of it by now but I thought I'd post for future readers.

Very slim chance you are running out of water in the attic tank. Much more likely that the solenoid coil is faulty. They can fail in two ways. They can be totally dead & not open at all or they can open & then overheat & shut off. They cool & will open again. It's in the 2 year warranty so I assume Triton replaced the solenoid free of charge.

The local shop bought the AS2000SR directly from the UK. It is only for the UK market and only has a warranty in the UK. The Triton Novel SR is only for the Irish market. It has no warranty in the UK.

Screwfix do it all the time. So do B&Q. With Screwfix you have to pay someone to remove the shower and send it back to them for repair. You then have to pay to get it installed again. They will do this for 12 months. Some showers or pumps they sell would have a 5 year parts & labour warranty if they bought through the Irish agent but Screwfix only cover it for 12 months. Some of the UK models sold here by Screwfix aren't sold at all by Triton Ireland. So even if it breaks out of the 12 months Screwfix or Amazon offers Triton Ireland don't stock parts for showers they don't sell in Ireland. Usually its cheaper to bin them even after 13 months than to try repair.

The small local shop usually say nothing to do with me & you need to bring them to the small claims court.

No. The shop isn't breaking any laws. It's Triton that gets blamed though when they won't repair for free after 18 months

There are three Pumped Electric Showers on the market. Mira Elite SE, Triton T900PSR and the Triton T90SR. The Triton T90SR is the most reliable. You can get a dual rain head for that or if you don't like white, it comes in Satin and Black colour too

No. That was a short lived problem. The problem was that people were living with it rather than getting it repaired under warranty.

Remembering that there are seven times more Triton electric showers installed in the UK & Ireland compared to Mira and we repair more mira elites to Triton T90SR. The biggest failures are the solenoid and pump elbow in the Mira Elite QT /SE. Believe it or not they are on the MK3 pump elbow. This pump elbow was introduced about 6 years ago. This is their 3rd attempt to rectify the most flawed part in the Mira Elite.

Sorry John. Only read part of comment.

The Triton T900PSR has just replaced the Triton T900pi. The T900pi was brought out to make it easier for people with Mira Elite shower to move over to Triton. The T900pi is on the mark 20 odd years. It's a good reliable shower. The new T900PSR look identical to the T900pi on the outside. The main difference is that it is now a silent shower. Quality wise it's up there with the T90SR. The reason I don't rate it as high as the T90SR is because (like the Aqualisa Aquastream) they haven't updated the look of it on the outside. It came out around the same time as the Triton T90si. Around 2000. It looks just like the T90si only a different shape. To me it's a dated looking shower.

T900PSR is portrait and T90SR landscape. It depends on what holes are behind the wall. If your old shower is connected on the right hand side then you will need about 12 inches of wall to the right of the shower to fit in the T90SR or you will need to move the pipe

Both should be the same price. Personally I'd go for the T90SR because it's more modern. Quality wise they should be the same.

It depends on the plumber. In Dublin most shower repair companies will supply & fit a Triton T90SR for under €400 Inc vat. General plumbers on the other hand tend to be much more expensive. I have seen several charge €650 to supply and fit the same shower.

He will need to drill the tiles. There or four holes between the shower and the new shower pole. Diamond tipped porcelain tile bit is around €25. It should be able to drill 10 holes or so.

These pumps are bullet proof. Their failure rate is only 10% of the failure rate of the older type of motor. If it is a faulty motor then Triton will replace it for free under the warranty.

Before calling them out you need to rule out airlock or getting starved of water. There is a €95 call out fee if the shower isn't at fault & they wont fix your airlock issue. I would remove the head & drop the hose into the tray or bath. I would remove the cover, this is dangerous if you aren't careful. Then I would run the shower until it acts up. Once it does have a look at where the filter is below the pump. You can see the water through this area. If you don't see constant water through this area then the shower is most likely not at fault. If the water looks constant with no bubbles looking through the white plastic then I'd suggest faulty motor or power pack.

I can't stress enough how careful you need to be running the shower with the cover off

What does your installer say about it?

Assuming it is piped correctly, it should have the same flow rate as the old shower. In fact most people would feel the new shower is more powerful than the old one. Older ones tend give less pressure as they age

It should give many years trouble free service. The silent motor has a much longer lifespan compared to the old style motor. There is a new thermostatic cartridge in these showers and I haven't seen one fail yet (assuming piped correctly).

I'm not sure what you mean by pipe trims. The water inlet is where you insert the pipes. These are push in fittings and shouldn't be sealed. Assuming you push the pipes home they won't give you any trouble

Can you post a photo? It actually sounds like you are describing a Triton AS2000xt. The Novel doesn't have two seperate entry points. It has one set that swivels to allow bottom or rear

You have an older triton novel. On the newer ones those pieces are moulded to the cover and need to be cut off if needed.

Slot them in place. A little silicone inside the cover around the piece of plastic will help it stay in place.

Your tank should be big enough for two showers, one after another. The time spent in the shower may effect this. A teen daughter could drain a full tank in one shower :)

A lot of people dont understand that water heated using PV solar isn't free. If you didn't heat this water the electricity could be used to power other things in the home or sold back to the grid for 20-25c (I believe). So at the very least your free water is going to cost what you could sell back to the grid. A five minute shower using the electric shower will still be cheaper than a 5 minute shower using the "Free" hot water from the PV. A power shower uses much more water. This water is cleaned & treated at a cost to the enviroument. An electric shower is knider to the enviroument. Having said that a power shower is a far more pleasurable way to shower compared to an electric shower.

If you go for the Triton Novel (a great little power shower) I would suggest keeping the electric shower too. It is great as backup when teen daughter uses too much free water & you need a shower there & then. Also you wont get much free hot water some dark mid winter days. Again electric shower is very handy when you need a shower there & then but not as much hot water as you thought.

If replacing the electric shower with a Novel then you might be able to use the cold supply from the electric shower so long as it comes from the tank. The hot supply comes from the tank using a flange or from the hot pipe coming from the hot water tank. You need to pay attention to the instructions because you can void the warranty if it's not plumbed correctly. Take the hot from the wrong place & the shower con suck in air. The electrics are the most important part here. The 6mm or 10mm cable is way too big for an electric shower. I would run a new cable from thisolation switch to the shower & change the 40amp RCBO at the fuse box. 40amp RCBO isn't safe for a power shower. You will need a REC for this.

You won't get more than 5 lpm with any electric shower. They can't heat them instantly at high flow rates. Triton novel SR will put out around 14 lpm