General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

Yeah, that 17/18 team that cracked 100 points with Sterling, Sane, and Aguero up front, and a midfield of Fernandinho, Gundogan and De Bruyne - with Silva's David and Bernardo on the bench - was by miles their best and most watchable side. Maybe the best PL side I've seen.

I hate City, but that team was unbelievably good, and played ridiculous football at that time...

I can't tell you the last time I sat down and watched a full City game. Its dreadful, predictable stuff.

This is very poor stuff from City..massive turning point in the title race potentially

Well he's not needed now, Haaland is just so good.

They just said that he's now scored against every Premier league team he's played against.

Handy having the best striker in the Premier league I suppose

That's true - soon as the defender fell over, it felt like a foregone conclusion.

Game was on to early this evening, and it was raining. You can't expect a sell out given that.

Aye yea, it was fierce early, what time was it, 7. 30??

Sure nobody could be expected to turn up that early,

They really need their "Go...Go..Gadget" advertising hoardings to extend to cover a few more rows of seats

A good few blocks of empty seats here in the second picture which is mid game.

I thought they were all sold out at the start of the season? And are ticket prices not consistent for every game in the PL? I assumed most clubs had the same prices for the same seats across all games and didn't change based on who the opponent was.

Not a city fan but there was only 17 seconds gone in the game in that clip people coulda been in the bar, late, the jacks even???

There weren't loads of empty seats, but there were certainly more than one would expect. Will be interesting to see if it's a similar sight an Anfield tomorrow night under the same circumstances.

(the champions league thing is a total misnomer though - any fan that might possibly be going to a game in person will be watching their own team play, be-it streaming or wherever, no matter what other games are on tv. Other teams games will be a distant 3rd priority - especially given tonight's CL offerings. Sure even in here there were no comments on the CL games, but plenty on the City match).

So you finish work at 5, for most probably close to an hour to get home, 6, change clothes, get something to eat, 6.45, how long does it take you to get to the stadium? Is every fan within 45 minutes including arrival and entrance?

Would you not think there's thousands of fans that aren't making it for kickoff?

The pic shown was 21 seconds into the game.

Are you ignoring my other post?

I'm no fan of City, but I think using screenshots taken inside the first few minutes of a game to prove something about people not turning up is a bit unfair.

It's common enough to see stands at all grounds not totally full right at kick off, just before half time, or after it, as people make their way too or back to their seats.

Loads of things to criticise City for in general - but, this? Nah.

Hard to believe that's accurate.

Real Madrid have Bellingham and Vini jr(name on his shirt), Barcelona have Lewandoski and not many other big names. Shocked to see Bayern so high, Liverpool ahead of United is very surprising. Hard to believe any of the other clubs, outside of PSG(I assume these figures include Neymar) are ahead of a team that has Haaland and DeBruyne.

As far as I'm aware the two biggest shirt selling players worldwide are Bellingham and Haaland with Mbappe next and those three a long way ahead of the rest.

When are those figures from? City won the Champions league at the end of the 22/23 season. I'd imagine their sales have grown a lot since then.

Amazing how you need a full match replay from somebody else but have pictures to suit your own agenda from the first couple of seconds.

And are you going to respond to my post regarding the timeline of a working man? The realistic stuff like I went through myself many times.

I'm not a City fan btw, my team are Athletic club.

Not really amazing. How else is a picture able to be generated without the footage. Given the game was not broadcast in the UK/Ireland, there are not as many pictures/videos floating around as there has been in the past when this situation has arisen given how frequent it is. For a club that claims to be the best in the world commercially, there is a lot of talk around this empty seats stuff throughout the season. So it doesn't marry up.

I can easily see the official attendance records for every home game for clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal etc but Man City chose to hide these. Why are they so secretive? Have they something to hide? Scared of being caught out?

And yeah, it's perfectly reasonable to be finished work at 5 and go to a match in time for 7.30 considering many people would work in the city itself.

Nobody would give a **** if they stopped announcing every game is a sell out and there’s clearly empty seats most games, there was ones right behind the goal vs Chelsea at the weekend ffs. Stop fudging the numbers and nobody gives a fcuk

Working in the City and living in the City are different things. Unless you are absolutely loaded you'll be living outside the city.

And even living in the City it's still a long way home in many cases. Busy traffic and train times, more than likely a walk anywhere from five to fifteen minutes minimum.

Be realistic here, you are talking about thousands of fans. If 15% of them are late there's big gaps. Even for 8pm kickoffs there's loads of fans not in the seats at kickoffs and this is at every ground.

How long is it for you to get to your seat from when you arrive at the stadium?

Have you any pictures of a 7.30pm game of United, Arsenal or Liverpool. In the first couple of seconds obviously like the City ones.

I’d say young kids right at that age would be the only ones where their might be a higher number with names (depending what’s cool in any particular school of course) - every other age besides young kids will more commonly not have a name.

Well this wasn't hard to find.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/GB1/plus/?saison_id=2023

Seen a few kids around the place in city tops but nothing compare to United or Liverpool. Another big game tonight in the race for the title; despite Liverpool's injury woes I think they'll beat Luton comfortably enough..should improve their goal difference at the same time I reckon