Fisker Ocean

If you read my post again, you will see that I did indeed answer the "Did you scrap your I. C.E. vehicle when you changed to your E.V." part of your question with the first word of my reply..... No. I comprehended your question and provided the answer accordingly.

The remainder of my post was in relation to your comment of "which is primarily fuelled by fossil fuels".

Ive been a following the Fisker Ocean story closely for the last couple of years and think their lean business model and choice of production partner with Magna will give them a good chance of success (along with Henry Fisker's lessons of his previous failed attempt with the Karma a decade earlier).

The Ocean will be built in the same plant alongside the Mercedes G-class & BMW Z4 in Graz, Austria. This will hopefully result in a good build quality in the production process, always a massive risk in any vehicle startup...and assuming the design proves to be robust.

The 2WD Sport has a 75kW LFP battery, whilst AWD Ultra, Extreme & One models get a 113kW NMC battery (reportedly 105kW useable), along with an equally large jump in price. All batteries are supplied from CATL in China.

The only comparable mid-size SUV that will come to market anytime soon in terms of price will be the BYD Tang, although at present its battery size is 88kW LFP. (There were rumours of a 108kW battery upgrade last year, but I havent read anything since).

I like the cars styling and performance specs of the Ultra as it will suit our needs, especially if it has a decent towing range. But undoubtedly the expected price is what is capturing peoples interest. As a result I decided to hedge my bets and put in a reservation in July last year for an Ultra. If I end up pressing the button, I would expect to be offered a production slot sometime in 2024.

Im not fully convenced just yet. Biggest concerns are obvious ones - i.e. (i) vehicle reliability, (ii) aftermarket support in Ireland and (iii) company viability (will they still be here during car ownership period). Will be watching keenly to see how this goes in the UK over next 12 months. Buying a new vehicle from a startup manufacturer is fraught with risks, but I think Fisker have done well to get to this point. Fisker have missed a few milestones with regard to production, but not on a Tesla level to be fair.

Introduced an off road version today. Force E. Existing owners can upgrade theirs too.

First true off road electric vehicle from a 'main manufacturer '

Tbf I'd agree I despise the market is now just crossover and SUV frankly. They're less efficient due to scale in many aspects they're the opposite to the point of EVs. Might be a very very unpopular opinion but I'd like to see a eu wide motor tax replacement based on size/weight. It might stimulate manufactures back into more efficient shapes like saloons fastbacks and wagons.

I did say unpopular opinion... but I hate the growth of huge vehicles on the road and in parking spaces.

And if your preapred to wait, the Fisker Ronin.

From the Fisker website:

I like the tag line

"Built for a Category of One"

I wonder will Fisker come to Ireland. Be a pity if they did not. I see the Ocean is to ho on sale in the UK sometime next year.

You did well getting the deposit back, @wassie. Fisker is in trouble.

I really like the ocean.

My review and drive of the Fisker Ocean

We nearly had them soft launch at the show last weekend so I'd say by end of year into 2025

Fairly good review by Mat Watson - particularly on the drive handling.

disappointing, hopefully someone picks them up. I quite like their cars.

No shock there as expected.

Although looking on Reddit the Chapter 11 petition is interesting in that it cites that this is for the Fisker Group only. Finsker Inc (parent of Fisker Group) and all of the subsidiaries (both US & overseas) are excluded at this time.

Again according to Reddit posters:

It seems like the Ocean IP is in the Mexico based company owned 99% by Fisker Inc directly.
If the IP is worth anything I am not very confident about, I do not think it is worth much.

and

Interesting way to structure a company. IP owned by the parent, stock is in the parent, all operations handled by the subsidiary. Things get ugly, you jettison the subsidiary.

I wonder what the play is here given there is not likely to be anything worth saving here, given no one was interested in a rescue deal.

You know the end is near when a couple of weeks ago they were offering staff their choice of any model for $20,000 including the Ocean One which was originally priced at $61,500.