BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Quick question folks, what’s going to happen with the 15B under the reshuffle?

Will it be more frequent or pretty much the same with a new bus number?

It’s a decent service as is but can get very busy, just needs the bus lane and bus gate infrastructure to make it quite good.

It's going to be replaced by route 85, which will run at pretty much the same frequency as the current 15b.

However, the 85 will terminate in Tallaght, not on Stocking Avenue like the 15b currently does. It will be routed up through Hunters Wood, Oldcourt Road, The Old Mill and on to Tallaght. I don't think this is a great idea, as there's a huge amount of housing that has just been completed in the Stocking area (the White Pines development) with more phases also on the way. Extending the 85 up to Tallaght will put big pressure on capacity. Although with so many other bus options available in Tallaght it's hard to say whether loads of people will take the 85.

The 15b is the primary public transport option for those who live up in the White Pines/Stocking area. This is why it has become such a busy route in recent years as more and more housing has been built in the Stocking area.

They also want to route the 85 into town through Harold's Cross and not Rathmines like the current 15b. This will maintain a bus service on the Terenure-Harold's Cross stretch, which is good. However, the lack of any investment in bus lanes on the stretch between Terenure Village and Harold's Cross might mean the 85 will get stuck in traffic and be quite slow.

The current proposed BC service to the airport will either be changed on implementation or else this will become the next big BC bashing news item in the news cycle, and that in itself will push the NTA into changing those plans. I just don't envision such a severe service reduction for the airport at a time of record passenger numbers to fly.

Soc Dem TD Jennifer Whitmore had said she received an update from the NTA on the E-Spine busconnects routes.

She said to the Irish Independent today that the E-Spine routes will begin this summer.

There is no details of the suggested E3 route from Bray to the Airport in her press release.

However she did outline the details of the local routes going around Bray and North Wicklow earlier today.

A Go-Ahead bus managing to show something other than "via X" on the internal display??! I'll be damned. It's most likely a glitch though as the S8 doesn't go near Dundrum itself. Closest it gets is the roundabout at junction 13.

Any word on when the N8 bus is due to start? That will be another connection (if infrequent) between the airport and the other spines.

A link of the E spine into Dublin airport would actually be a huge benefit to anyone living northside along that corridor and it makes as much sense as a terminus for that spine as it is a terminus for the A spine. Dublin airport is a huge centre of employment and it stands to reason that there'd be as many airport employees served by such a connection as the connections facilitated by A spine. I don't think private operators can cater to the excess demand that will be left unserved by the withdrawal of the 16/41 because its not the same market using private operators as using DB airport services.

Yeah it seems to be a bit of a strange one to be fair, I live in Old Bawn and would sometimes get a lift to Templeogue and hop on a 15b to get into Rathmines or Camden St etc. My Best guess is it is probably to do with the 54A being discotinued? and therefore becomes an amalgamated route ?

Have the plans for the Tallaght area changed ?

Thanks for posting that link LX.

So if I wanted to stay with the old 15B route, I’d be as well getting the 85 to terenure road east/west xroads and then transferring to A1,A2,A3 or A4.

I shouldn’t have long to wait on an A as each respective A is scheduled to be 12m from the last and as there are 4 A’s, in theory, it should only be 3 mins wait time.

Furthermore with the €2 m, 90min fare my ticket is transferable onto whatever A bus I get from the 85.

The only thing I hope is that they have a covered bus shelter with RTI for people transferring at terenure crossroads.

Yes exactly, the 16/41 can't really be replaced by private operators as they're separate markets. The private operators are mostly useless for people travelling between north Dublin suburbs and the airport. The Aircoach 700 route stops at Drumcondra railway station but that's the only one I can think of - and obviously that's a lot more expensive than the 16 or 41.

Both the n2 and o route are presently missing a large amount bus stops with no sign of new stops being rolled out