Why are we having a referendum on Women in the Home?

Sinn Fein aren't in power. Why would you let something an opposition TD said guide your decision either way? If you want to punish Sinn Fein then vote against them in the next general election.

Sinn Fein showing contempt for the public is tradition for them at this stage. Still, it has nothing to do with this referendum.

It does because it shows that they obviously are unwilling to do a proper job convincing people to vote yes and clearly think the public's concerns aren't worthwhile.

Any time a political party shows contempt for the public or suggests to people who make arguments against something to not worry it's for your own good you need to accept it, arouses suspicion and suggests that what they are pushing has some ulterior motive that they don't want to tell us about.

Because people sitting around got bored, thought this nonsense up, and are running with it… and you’ll be happy to know, that if rejected, SF will run it again if they get into power. Couldn’t make this Sh1t up

Nearly 30 40 years ago we were told we must vote against divorce because it would break up farms... 🙄

In fairness to Mary Lou, she said they'd re run the referendum with different wording, depending on what they go with it could address most of the concerns (the care referendum), or at least make it clearer exactly what we're voting on and the repercussions (for the family referendum)

Maybe in order to save a lot of money for the country a better thing the government could have done is not waste money on this referendum and simply tell people:

"If you want the legal protections afforded to married couples then get married.You need to stop viewing marriage as a romantic gesture and simply view it as a legal agreement between 2 people"

Unless of course the durable relationship is something that you don't actually know you are in and the government aren't willing to admit that this is the case and is a way to trapping people with responsibilities they may not want to have.

A lot of people seem to think the government is attempting to "distract" people with the referendum. The reason we are having the referendum is because there was an Oireachtas Committee that suggested these changes (however the government decided not to implement all their changes which is why it is so vague and for example doesn't cover all forms of care). Not everything is a conspiracy!

It's not the end of the world as some nutters say, but it's an ineffective amendment that doesn't provide a lot of positive change.

It doesn't say the women's duties are in the home

It says the state recognise work women do in the home as key to the functioning of society.

Really? And in what way have women been confined to the home in recent decades?

It has no affect on women's lives at all anymore in fact you could argue it could prove to be beneficial to women. By having a line in the constitution that recognises that work in the home is a real thing is good for women as it could be used to argue the state should support work in the home more by offering help for women who have jobs and have to look after their families aswell.

Jesus I hope you’re not voting because you haven’t read/watched literally anything about it. It doesn’t say “the woman’s duties in a home”.

This is the way the government would like you to think though I’m sure. Unfortunately it’s written in the constitution in plain English.

As for the durable relationship. Yeah that’s wide open to interpretation at the mercy of a judge. If there was a way to make men’s rights even less in a court room I could imagine a few reasons this wording could be damaging. So now you don’t have to be married for the woman to take everything belonging to you.

I advise you to watch debate and read a bit more about what you’re signing up to.

If they want to use durable relationship they need to define the meaning behind it instead of rambling nonsense when asked. Its actually pretty scary because either

A. The government are too stupid to understand what they are actually doing and so this makes updating the constitution dangerous or

B. They know exactly what they are doing and are preying on people to make the wrong decision by throwing around incorrect phrasing like women’s duties are in the home and what about the children and all those other nice relationships we need to recognise.

Another one who doesn't read a post properly and then goes off on a rant.

I didn't say that it did.

It sets out what is happening with no opinion

The two rewordings are a cluster fcuk

" durexable relationships"

Clear enough for me to no by 2

If women are kept outside the home, wouldn't it eliminate all the other problems in a few decades?

Well, unless you wanted to put on a bit of a show for next doors anyway.