Increase in road deaths - questions need to be asked

and what did all this enforcement do exactly? People were smashing into each other for fun back then

drunk as skunks, driving rust buckets with bald tyres

kids standing up on the back seats, not a seat belt between them

Well, that €1 or €2 spent might save your life but it doesn't help if people won't use it.

Uber works everywhere else - have you ever used it? Having seen how some "trained" taxi drivers drive I would wonder could they be any worse. You can rate your driver on Uber and they'll quickly get a bad rap. Bar you are bothered reporting a taxi driver to the regulator....and what a waste of energy that would be.

Go Safe vans generate revenue for Go Safe and are deliberately put in easy to catch people speeding. Well, if you think that 10 million euro is a waste, then I'll see it and raise you 2bn because the public sector in this country couldn't plan a hospital.

Anyway, have a good day. There's a reason I skip past your posts!

Go Safe don't get the revenue. They are paid a fixed fee regardless of how many fines are issued and paid.

Fines are paid to the Gardai, and don't cover the cost of the service.

Uber works every where else by forcing taxi drivers out of the business and turning it into a part time role. Taxi drivers are Garda vetted, trained in dealing with customers with disabilities and more.

Fines aren't paid to Go Safe.

If they won't pay €2 to pump their tyres, they can GTF off the road.

Any survey who would quote made up figures like that should be thrown in a bin

all the enforcement back when you were a lad resulted in what, a load of deaths

theres apparently no enforcement these days and way less deaths, as in 1/4 of them

explain this

You are wasting your time trying to educate that poster on the intracies of valves. Their post on was just silly.

"...Speeding is seen as the biggest cause of motor accidents for both the general population (41%) and amongst 44% of drivers. Carelessness was recorded in second place amongst 17% of drivers, followed by drink driving or having taken drugs a close third place recorded by 16% of drivers. These are the findings of a new survey of 1,000 people nationwide, 774 of whom are drivers, carried out by iReach Insights on behalf of Aviva Insurance Ireland DAC (Aviva).

Other causes contributing to road accidents amongst the respondents to the survey include the use of mobile phones while driving (11%), aggressive drivers (6%), and poor roads (5%). Only 1% of drivers believed weather conditions were a cause of motor accidents..."

You'd have blind not to see all the speeding. I'm not saying it's always dangerous either. But many times it is.

So your solution to the problem of people getting from A to B in a rural part is "leave well enough alone". I'd reasonably argue that I'd rather a local sober individual drove 4 lads from place to place than 1 of them deciding to drive. If you don't see this then you don't get human nature. You can vet Uber drivers the exact same way as trained taxi drivers. It is a solution in places where there is no taxi service.

I did not know fines were not paid to Go Safe. But you seem to think people are perfect and won't speed. They will if there is no deterrent, 10m cost or not.

Again, you cay say that about the 2 euro (and I have my own pump by the way) all you want but again, you don't understand human nature it seems. How are you getting them off the road if they don't pay it and chance it that their tyres will be OK?

I think you lack an understanding of basic human behaviour to be honest.

they'll probably only get a 10 year driving ban, if even that

Guards driving around in squad cars and talking on their phones which I see regularly, really sums up the indifference to rules and safety right across the board. Someone will defend this behaviour as 'in the course of duty' but it's a real bug-bear of mine.

Going through a lot of valves is not a good thing...

I don't get why after these fatal incidents Gardaí ask if anyone had dashcam footage yet never actually give details of the make/model of vehicle that was in the incident. The very same car could have been spotted numerous times before the incident driving like a complete loon yet because nobody knows what is being looked for there's not going to be much success in getting any footage.

You keep talking about enforcement, but back in those days it wasn't yet the law to wear seatbelts in the back or zero tolerance in drink driving.

All the checkpoints in the world can't enforce something until it is actually legislation.

The problem is that they brought in the legislation and then reduced the checkpoints.

they ask for dash cam footage within a time and place where the accident took place

what the car was doing before the accident, might not be of any use

Phones

People scrolling on phones

They enforced the laws that were in place at the time.

You were listing things like back seatbelt laws that weren't around when I was a kid, don't act dumb and pretend that there were no laws at all.

Thats rather the point yes, well done.

who said they were enforcing laws that didn't exist at the time, this is plainly stupid

they had all this enforcement, supposedly, not when I was a lad mind, maybe the 60s? and yet all these deaths

so the solution is laws, education, safer roads, safer cars etc

this is what works

laws are their to push people in general to adhere to them even with a very low chance of getting caught

as an example, in the 80s 90s you had a big thing called joy riding, plus general car theft, what stopped joy riding, was it the police?

do you tend to have interactions?

no i didn't say that, I said that

I said thats how people were driving

it was fairly simple and straighforward, I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know you can't enforce a law that doesn't exist

can you answer what all these checkpoints were enforcing, considering they were doing feck all given the deaths

I would also say I was never stopped at a checkpoint as a kid