AMOC/Atlantic Ocean circulation is nearing devastating tipping point - New Study

The disturbing thing is that comment got 6 likes. This being a weather forum makes that fact even worse.

You may find it all funny etc but time will tell regarding climate change. Its already telling but clearly not enough for those that deny it or at least those that deny that humans are the cause. Time always tells in the end. I doubt those that come after us will find it all that funny. Not saying they are all doomed but challenging times will be coming for humanity.

There is still a lot of scepticism.

Too many boy cried wolf stories about the climate disasters to bring the masses onboard.

The scaremongering stoies about Dublin beimg underwater and London the same, just appear as agenda driven nonsense by invested parties.

The general population just doesnt believe it.

Well imprisonment of people for their views would be going way too far. People can believe whatever they want. I'm not going to change you and others minds anymore then you are going to change mine. I believe in the science of the current situation. If you believe and rightly so that the climate has always changed and we know this from science and what scientists have told us. So why believe they (or many of them) have got it so wrong now? Regarding the current situation. Sounds like a contradiction to me.

We have been lucky the last 10,000 yrs or so. The climate has been relatively stable in that time which has allowed humans to flourish and create civilisations. Whatever humans do or don't do the climate will change at some point of course anyway. With nature it's all a game of chance and luck. We've been on a roll. I believe we are playing with that luck now. I'd rather not take the chance that maybe the science could be wrong. We have to clean up our act anyway.

How about scientists being fired from their jobs at universities, or being pressured to resign, over their science based scepticism? How about the latest recipient of the Nobel prize for physics being cancelled by the IMF for saying climate science is junk science?

A couple of pages backed I posted this, without the axis labels. It is a rough record of global average temperature spanning the last 5 glacial/intergalcial cycles:

The green bits are mine. On the right, we have the current climate 'crisis'. Luck and chance have nothing to do with it, from my interpretation of that graph. The climate has not been stable these past 12,000 years, that is a monumental lie perpetrated by the climate cabal conspiring to get climate journal editors fired for being too objective.

That is as classic a case of a saw tooth pattern as you could wish for. How obvious is it to suggest that the Earth's climate is currently subject to quite regular glacial/interglacial periods?

Those near vertical increases in temperature are in absolute sync with corresponding rises in CO2, which had nothing whatsoever to do with mankind or Neanderthal kind. But this time it's different, trust me, I fiddled adjusted the surface temperature record enough, I should know.

What do you make of that graph?? BS???

I can't understand how the hell you don't think human emissions aren't increasing CO2 levels. I'm not even talking about that graph ( think of it what you will) . You think CO2 rises are all natural and nothing at all to do with all the extra billions of tonnes we have put into the atmosphere over the last 100 yrs in particular. Of course trees ,plants and the oceans soak up alot. But its one hell of a coincidence that since 1850 when CO2 ppm was a 280 ( unless you think that's BS too) and it's currently around 420 ppm that , it has nothing to do with human emissions.

Every time you see headlines about impending  Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current (AMOC) collapse, check who is looking for funding, often this scare originates from people connected with the Potsdam institute for Klimate alarm. These papers are about burning research grant money, nothing else. In this case it turns out the people running the computer models involve Greenland ice melting producing 7 times the amount of ice/water in Greenland. Oh, and 17 centuries from now for the impending AMOC collapse. These people need to step away from the computer.

Meanwhile if you are interested, as this is the weather forum see One hundred years in the Norwegian Sea (tandfonline.com), all these are associated with changes in the Atlantic currents.

• The great chill, 1900-1920
• The warming in the North, 1920-1960
• The great salinity anomaly, 1968-1982
• The warming of the abyss, 1970-present
• The freshening of the sub-arctic seas