Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Little bit of help from ye: I am trying to find what percentage of our total plastic waste is taken up by plastic bottles which have the deposit.

EPA-2021 and Ireland generated just under of 400,000 tonnes of plastic waste.

This tie from the EU Directive,

"however, end-of-waste materials

to be used as fuels or other means to generate energy, or to be incinerated, backfilled or landfilled, shall not be counted towards the

attainment of the recycling targets."

Hmmm and we incinerate about 70%????

How much of a difference will ReTurn make?

I regularly see people in shops who appear to have lower hygiene standards than normal anyway so I can't see a visit to the RVM making things a lot worse.

This system has been used for years in Germany and they don't seem to have a hygiene issue

Don't give them ideas. Before you know it, they'll be deducting 5c of every voucher to cover recycling the paper its printed on.

people will stockpile black bags of cans and bottles

That's a new one, do you have proof of this behaviour? The most products I've ever seen somebody put into an RVM is 5 and most people will return with their weekly shop (so 1 week) so I've not noticed much of a stockpile myself

I've started my stockpile. About 10 so far.

nooo, please! you're throwing away money. 1 euro 20 cents worth of scrap aluminium or something. i want ur crushed cans.

56-70 cans = 1 euro

https://scrapyard.ie/scrap-metal-prices/

It's a hassle, end up throwing the bottles and cans into the home recycling. More tax money for the government which could have been their wish all along.

Off course I don’t have proof, have you proof that your opinion is more valid? Ideally not anecdotal.

Everyone will do it how they please. How do people use bottle banks?

I personally have a little pile that I will return when I’ve a decent voucher built up on - one journey, one visit to the machine.

Send your very valid opinion to that Ossian Smyth lad - it's his baby, though you'd never think it as he's that invisible.

What's going on? The scheme is badly designed and then poorly implemented, the public aren't impressed.

@Red Silurian this poster stockpiled cans? Do you accept some people will gather up more than 5 items at a time now?

We bought some Cream Soda in Dunnes this week, charged the deposit but the bottles didn't have the returnable logo on. My wife was talking to a worker in Aldi, he said it will be months before they use up the stock in their warehouse & bottles with the logo on are on the shelves.

Surely all plastic bottles & cans ended up back at a recycling place before this, it's not as if people just threw them over a ditch.

From my understanding, because they are all franchises they will all do as they please. It could have been the cashier you were dealing with - the cashier I was called over the supervisor to help her so it’s either they have chosen to do it that way or staff training - their till system is trash - baffles me that one to scan my card at the end of shopping, then the voucher instead of just one scan at any point during the checkout.

Now lads steady on. We were told we copied the "perfect" German system!!!!!!