Increase in Anti-EV Media Articles

I can only speak of the people I know and some do lots of ad hoc long distance journeys. Both into the city. But also between where they live and where family live (elderly parents for example).

Again that's weird though, why move rurally somewhere which is also beyond an EV journey from family. Would have to be a very minority subset

People tend to move into cities, to work, and "go home" to parents at weekends. They are not, then, rural dwellers.

Miniscule amount of people would be born in a rural area, and them move several hundred kilometers to a different rural area

I am saying so and I'm also saying diesels will still be sold in 5 years (i never said they wouldn't) it's just the roads will be a lot more full of EVs as a result of cheaper EVs, governments putting the squeeze on diesel and the public infrastructure having greatly improved. If you don't think the motoring landscape will not be radically different in 5 years time then you're only codding yourself.

Most people who move, for work, move TO a city and are no longer rural dwellers.

People moving rural to rural (several hundred kilometers away, and outside EV range) are a tiny subset

Vast amounts of people work in a city, but don't live in it.

I simply said I know some rural people for whom a EV wouldn't work because they do a lot of regular and ad hoc long journeys. It's not that they don't have enough EV range to do A-B.

I think some of the traditional brands will have to do better on price and quality to avoid being seen as poor value and even quality than the Chinese competition.

All will have to work hard not decimate their used cars values in the face of price war on new cars. Because no one's going to buy new if they can buy nearly new at a fraction of the price.

I see the shift to anti EV bias in media is gaining attention...

The biggest fall in the EV market is in the likes of UK when people bought car and then went to drive a long distance and hit the issues with charging stations

Ireland we don’t see a big issue because in reality we are a small country and small population, yet EV groups are full of people moaning about charging points

I have used EV since 2016 FYI, so know all about them but I never use the public network

Also the price of electricity has gone crazy, so you had someone in uk swapping from a diesel, getting into an EV, having to stop at charging point(if they found one working) and then paid more per mile than a diesel.

Maybe that’s called people been antiEV but when you pay a premium to buy an electric car to then get screwed when topping up then of course people are upset

In the UK and Ireland to a lesser extent there's an issue with fragmentation of payment gateways for the existing chargers. New ones have to take a credit card afaik so less of an issue. That was one of Harry's previous complaints.

He's tested quite a few in the meanwhile. Took the ID3 to London for example.

He's a long distance driver. For sure he gives a representation of what a normal Joe might experience first time out.

But frequent long distance EV drivers usually have a preferred route and know the most reliable uncongested chargers in route.

LOL. Sometimes you just have to laugh

https://youtu.be/YmVhhaOiJoM?si=xX0aNO4ldYuX_vkJ

You could say you are just repeating the same social media tropes from electric car owners

i do my own research 👍 the vast majority is fine in Ireland but not in uk when motorway driving and longer distances. Ireland is perfect for electric because in reality even a smaller battery will do most people because we are a small country, but then our market is small and most manufacturers see us as fairly irrelevant, like it or not.

In terms of price gone crazy? Well my home bill would say different compared to a few years ago when I first bought electric. I think I was paying less than 0.05 cent per kWh at night but let’s take 0.05, now I’m on 0.17, that’s 183% increase

Dont get me wrong it’s still cheaper to run the electric car but that’s a significant increase.

Average mileage per year in UK is 7,400 miles per year. In Ireland it's 10,500 miles.

I assume that's because the UK has better public transport and perhaps a higher % of population in cities and urban environments.

For sure it's a bigger country and the opportunity for longer journeys are there. Statistically they don't though.

You were talking about public charging prices. At the moment they are going up while domestic and wholesale prices are going down. That has nothing to do with energy prices over the last decade.

You seem to arguing an EV is both more (and less) expensive than a diesel to run in the same breath/post. Will you be selling the EV to get a diesel?

I already have a diesel

Im having a discussion, not an argument

In terms of electric I can see the benefit and also the disadvantages, you don’t have to be an all singing dancing member of the club. I can also see the benefits of diesel

The point I made was the so called anti EV media is coming from a lot of people changing into EV for motorway driving in the UK and finding out the huge issues. So it’s customer stories, plenty of them on social media like TikTok of owners, not Murdock or whoever you want to fire out. These are not made up and is an issue.

So yes a diesel for those drivers would be cheaper

You said electricity hasn’t increased and everyone fill at home so it doesn’t matter, I gave an example to say it had and significantly.

Again in pro EV which you seem to think I’m not and going on the attack.