Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

You missed the “Predictions in this area are always difficult but I suppose..” bit - so basically he is guessing.

It’s not quite as easy as just multiplying by 12. Something strange happened last year. From February to June there was a significant drop in numbers, very roughly - down by 40% on the same time the previous year. Then it shot up again for the last six months of the year. I’d be interested to know why that drop happened.

O'Gorman is not saying he wants asylum seekers to come here - he is simply making a prediction on the types of numbers that would be expected to claim asylum in future (it would actually make his life much easier if none came at all).

Hundreds of thousands of extra people have arrived to live here, more are arriving, more will arrive and the government response is to delay capital projects that we already need…for the current population… one example…

Metro :

planned to be operational by 2027…. Now the ‘earliest’ is 2035…

not a 2,3 or 4 year delay…. 8 years FFS…

nutsville.

Roderic O’Gorman is a very modern minister. He is more led by good intentions than reality, he’s like a fair cohort of people in the media also, who won’t criticise him or the Government for being too slow to take steps to halt immigration.

Many of them didn’t want to see that platitudes about the Irish having gone everywhere and don’t we know what it’s like to have to emigrate etc are useless when it comes to taking in hundreds of thousands of people.

Utterly flawed thinking has led to 1000 homeless immigrant males along with a housing crisis and the disappearance of a large part of the tourism industry.

And yet only a few weeks ago Eamon Ryan went on national radio and said that Ireland is not full. He’d probably say the same if another million immigrants arrive this year.

What a time to be alive, when fashionable thinking can trump facts.

Ireland always as long as I can remember had limited infrastructure.

Ya think because we have mass immigration into the coutry. Mostly people looking for freebies. Its going to change?

What's drugs are people on?

The only thing the money should be used for now is to improve what we have and pay down our debt.

Not keep this ponzi scheme going.

Only people benefiting are the connected business heads promoting this shite.

Why would he want asylum seekers to come here? They represent a net loss to the exchequer and the State - it would be much better for his department if none came at all.

It would be like claiming he wants the prison population to get bigger or the numbers of homeless seeking state services to increase.

This is a party that is very positive towards illegal immigration.

It’s like a group of well meaning sixth class students were put in government.

It probably is quite as easy as times 12 - As I said previously, 1774 came in Jan with the lads knowing they were going into tents and they still came - I'd expect a massive increase in the better/warmer months to follow. We're well on course for 1650 in Feb as demonstrated below

gov.ie stats show arrival reports 4th, 11th, 18th Feb 2024. These show 1103 to date - Next report up to 25th Feb will likely show at least another 350 for that week (avg of 50 per day) which will see the total at 25th Feb - 1450 with a few days to run (another 200 for those days) giving a likely 1650 for Feb

That's not far off the 1774 for Jan and I'd say it will continue in that vein for the rest of the year

Nigeria accounts for the bulk of arrivals as McEntee refused to put them on the safe country list (even though O'Gorman wanted to) - If Nigeria was on the safe list, McEntee wouldn't be able to fulfill her 'fast track for safe countries' promises and she might look bad...

I have news for you Helen, you couldn't really look any worse

Let's face it, if there was a surplus of housing in Ireland and the cost of living was allowing people to live comfortably, the number of immigrants could increase ten fold and no one would bat at eyelid once the status quo wasn't negatively impacted by it.

The rhetoric around Ireland being a hotbed of far right beliefs etc is pure hyperbole.

When you pit people against each other for limited resources you get the situation we have in this country now.

Intolerance isn't the issue, people are genuinely and rightfully afraid of the negative impact immigrantion is having on them and the people peddling the "you're all racists" waffle should be ignored but they're the ones setting the agenda to begin with so the whole situation is a disaster from start to finish.

If anything has the potential to create a real and tangible far right in Ireland it is this issue and how it is being handled by the establishment, tell people they're bigots and fascists for long enough and they may well just head in that direction because they're being accused of it anyway.

No demographer has ever predicted the population of the island of Ireland to rise to 10 million, so I don't know what he's talking about here. Current estimates are that the population of the Republic might hit 6m by 2050 and not go much higher than it after that.

In many cases a person is much better off staying out of employment(or the level needed to be disqualified social supports) and availing of government assistance. That’s probably a large of the problem.

In the past people didn’t want to end up in social housing in rough areas but now your in a new build estate with a neighbor beside you who is either a tenant paying big money or a family after forking out well over the odds(after the council and letting company’s drive the prices up) for the same thing you get for “free”(compared to what the other two are paying).

I did the maths a few years back (2016-18 I think) before I was settled in my career, I would have been better off on the dole and doing a few nixers if I could avail of HAP or a social house - that’s without factoring in the 40 hours a week I’d get back to myself not having to work.

What i find interesting is the reason the D hotel have given for not wanting dual use is "child protection issues"!!

Is this not an admission that there are child protection issues from taking in hundreds of male asylum frauds? So the good people of Drogheda are supposed to just put up with these "child protection issues" in their town?

There are no child protection issues. The hotel owners are just shutting down talk of duel use including tourists. The profits come from asylum seekers and after a while most of the staff can be got rid of, increasing profits again.

In saying that, suggesting that the asylum seekers could include paedophiles amongst them is a low argument to make for not taking in tourists. I can't understand how they have been let off the hook with that one.