Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

Leinster have diversified but have quite rightly not thrown the baby out with the bath water. They're constantly looking at ways to improve and innovate and invested as such. To have a case for them not making hay you'd have to see a falloff, like Munster, whereas Leinster have gone from strength to strength.

Munster didn't make hay for a large part because they navel gazed that everything was great due to a fantastic crop of players (by its nature, heavily due to geography factors) and believed the way they did things would continue and produce a similar quality of players. They didnt identify the impact of professionalism was having on the club game and stayed stuck in what they always did. It is no coincidence that the period where they had near drought of top young players come through was when they had the ridiculous situation of splitting their team between two training bases. Utter madness.

You'd swear no other province has players who come through their school system (it is the vast majority of the playing pool for all).

Leinster Rugby has invested in the schools competition for generations, since 1887, but sure you know better and the success in producing players from that source has nothing to do with that investment at all.

Pure envious waffle that just excuses incompetency from other provinces.

Seems like you have an itchy trigger finger and 'objecting' to something that isn't there.

No one is saying they get 'the short end of the stick', my point was clear in my first sentence:

I never said they were bad, I was simply pointing out some negatives to having so many of the core Irish players coming from the one team - things that other province fans complain about. These are of course in addition to the many positives of them, that I've accepted.

Most of that last post stinks of being proud of your ignorance. Just because you personally didn't 'hear' of Leinster rugby growing up 30 plus years ago, it didn't mean they weren't supporting the schools and the competition itself that produces the players. It also ignores everything Leinster Rugby has done since then when it comes to development, when they have been incredibly focused on the development of young players. For example, when other provinces were taking outside money and throwing it at NIQs, Leinster made the choice to use a portion of it to develop top tier facilities for their team and academy, pairing with a college that would be a drawing point for young players.

@Foxtrol Absurd, you literally wrote that a lack on continuity and cohesion resulting from Leinster’s Ireland commitments cost them Europe. ‘Not the hack’ is meaningless so I asked for details and impact and that’s what you offered up. Anyway, ad homonums are sad and I’ll take them as seriously as I do the rest of your insights on this matter.

I would think most of the sub academy kids come from schools. Makes sense given that most of the panel are former schools players. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great system and Leinster exploit it perfectly well but please don’t pretend it’s anything other than a massive gift to Leinster as a rugby team.

It wasn't available but mentioned on a supporter group that highlights would be available

Without Ireland in the picture Sexton would have played his pro career abroad and Leinster would have very little silver ware hanging on the wall. As for Leinster’s role in schools, you said they’d been doing Trojan work forever. I printed out that when I was a kid no one knew anything about Leinster, they played invitational matches. Leinster rugby at the time administered provincial leagues. Ned managed a few grounds. You have no idea what you are talking about and strike me as someone who thinks the world of Irish rugby revolves around Leinster when in fact the province has managed resources that haven fallen into its lap reasonably well, though I’ve argued before that one CC win in a decade is a poor return on investment. They have the Lions share of one of the worlds top teams on their roster and have 1 medal to show for it. I’m not a Leinster fan boi, I’m a rugby fan.

Forgetting there are other counties in Leinster outside The Pale is the most insular South Dublin bubble take I think I've ever read on boards, absolutely love it!

Rugby thread but claiming Leinster hurling teams can’t win all-Irelands? Kilkenny hurling not in Leinster?

If ye don’t want Kilkenny we’d gladly take them into the Munster hurling championships! 😃