Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Legal obligations with what consequences?? Let the politicians take their shaming and their verbals.

“There is no body that monitors compliance. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees(UNHCR) has supervisory responsibilities but cannot enforce the Convention, and there is no formal mechanism for individuals to file complaints.

At present, the only real consequences of violation are 1) public shaming in the press, and 2) verbal condemnation of the violator by the UN and by other nations. To date, those have not proven to be significant deterrents.”

Stop with the lies. Foreigners with skills and ability are not welcome here. Ireland is full, we are at capacity. We have issues with our health service, issues with accommodation, issues with education. How can one say all this when it comes to asylum seekers and yet turn around and say we're not full to foreigners with skills and a visa? Either we are full, or we aren't.

People (of whatever nationality) who arrive here who are skilled, financially independent and willing to work will always find accommodation and employment opportunities in a bouyant economy, although they will struggle with accommodation, it is available if you have deep pockets. Unskilled migrants who fetch up with nothing will find Ireland is full, if they are not financially independent and in a position to pay for their own accommodation. It really is that simple. Irish 3rd level students are commuting long distances to college because they can't afford the accommodation costs, or more likely there simply isn't enough accommodation available. I'd put the needs of these Irish students ahead of any of the chancers that are gaming the system currently. Ireland needs to put its own citizens first. Comparisons with the Irish emigrant of 50 years ago are ridiculous, nothing was handed on a plate to anybody who left these shores then.

Not always true, I'm fortunate enough to have private insurance but no private hospital will see me for my illnesses, I'm always sent to public A&E, where you are lucky now if you get a seat in the waiting room due to capacity issues.

This can only be linked to an increase in demand driven by a massive increase in population. Also, it's impossible to get a same day GP appointment in most of Dublin.

Those of non EU nationality will seek asylum .

People will accommodation but people won't find accommodation unless rich. Which is it? As for deep pockets, how deep do you think as care assistants pockets are for example?

So do you think we should get rid of foreign students as well, or should they not be provided with accommodation from colleges? If we are going to take the approach of putting own citizens first. How many of asylum seekers are staying taking up space in student accommodation anyway? Given that rule is that student accommodation must be empty for a year before it can be housed to house asylum seekers I fail to see how significant that impact can be.

The only support I got was an A4 sheet of commonly used words in Ukrainian/English and that was it, get on with it. The government praised themselves for the support they were offering, I got no support. As a mainstream teacher my classes increased in size with no help. There are also more and more Irish students with additional needs. In my school the extra teachers provided are teaching EAL to small groups or some classes have team teachers where there are 2 teachers in the room, one lead teacher and one who offers help to students. These are also of very little support to me as they are not teachers in my subject area so really they are just another set of eyes in the classroom. I still have massive classes and a massive workload with hours each night or preparation and corrections. I am taking early retirement, not because I don't want to teach 'foreign' students but because I have worked myself to the bone trying to do so.

Nobody has a veto over who lives beside them.

Nope. Closer to 1000 people. Strangely the current TD for the area, Ryan, from SF is vocal about it. She is from Athy, nowhere near this place and there hasn't been a peep out of her all this time until SF said she won't be running next election for them.

Please stop repeating this discredited idea. It is patently clear that in real life citizens have a powerful influence on what happens as regards neighbours and in their communities. In more normal times, it's called the planning system. When government tries to override the planning system, local public objections come into play. Sometimes it's a matter of those with money and influence.

Completely factually incorrect. No one has a veto on who move into a community. That's just a fact.

I think you both know that in real life, people can and do exercise control over what happens in their community - what's built, what it's used for and by whom. If you choose not to call that a veto, well happy days for you. It's the same thing.

Someone needs to tell the asylum seekers what the average rent prices are in Ireland.

Furzee has claimed that communities have a veto on who moves into their area. I'm simply asking him how is that veto working out for Roscrea and I'm interested in hearing his opinions on it.

The problem is that many asylum seekers are not genuine are not skilled require costly support a lower percentage take up employment.Roderic even admitted 60% are not genuine.