ISI Fighter Shamima Begum Not allowed to return to the UK

Begum's and Smith's ideology doesn't come from Britain or Ireland though. This fascist alien ideology comes from Saudi Arabia, a regime who has been promoting this fascist wahhabi death cult religion for the last 50 years, just not on their own soil. If we truly want to send them back to where they came from, it would be to Saudi Arabia, but guess what, the house of Saud don't want anything to do with them either.

That's a dreadful effort tbh. I doubt you even believe it.

Lisa Smith is Irish born and bred, no matter what her beliefs are. That's where she comes from. Begum likewise for the UK.

You know it, I know it, the UK Home Secretary knows it, even if they managed to contort a legal argument that allowed them to prohibit her return to where she's from.

I do believe it. Because it is the undeniable truth.

Quite telling you have nothing to say about what Saudi Arabia has been doing the last 50 years to the rest of the planet. This poor wanneen wanted to live in an 'Islamic State'. She probably still does, and she still can, let her go do it in Saudi Arabia, a legitimate Islamic State that promotes Wahhabism to the rest of the globe 24/7.

Britain can't be dealing with what utter geopolitical Bull$hit the house of Saud has made a hames of the last 50 years, let the House of Saud deal with it. They made it, so what's the problem?

The problem here is, which has completely been ignored for the last 50 years, is that the regime in Saudi Arabia, the House of Saud, has exported the most dangerous and fascist elements of it's Sunni sect outwards to the rest of the planet, from Britain to Bangladesh. This same sect that was infested into the mind of this particular follower of Wahhabi Islamism. These people follow no nation. I repeat, they follow no nation, if they did, they wouldn't have shacked up with a Wahhabi death cult. They follow the Wahhabi doctrine. That doctrine originates from Saudi Arabia. It is the House of Saud's problem, not ours in the west, not in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Syria or anywhere else these headhunting totalitarian scumbags tried to throw their own indigenous problem onto in order to save themselves.

Let Saudi Arabia deal with it. Religion is a mind drug. The House of Saud is the cartel for this particular mind drug infestation. Let them deal with it or sanction them.

What's the problem? I know what the problem is, but do you?

You got your legal basis three days ago when the British legal system told this Wahhabi to go seek the solace of Fascist Wahhabism. You just don't like the result and now you and the likes of you are trying to make some pathetic altruistic case that you care for this woman. If you genuinely cared you would be against what poisoned her mind in the first place. So it doesn't happen to some other victim of Saudi mindfuckery.

You can't single this case down to some sort of simplification that "Begum is a bad person", Begum has been brainwashed by Saudi backed/funded Wahhabism propaganda, along with another potential 1000 Islamists that originated from Britain to literally join a Wahhabi Death Cult that is literally Hell bent on murdering literally anything that does not aspire or agree to their fascist belief in some fairy story concocted 1200 years ago from the sands of the Arabian peninsula. What do you expect the British authorities to do? Welcome all these f**king lunatics back with open arms to do what the Wahhabi's did in Paris in November 2015?

There has to be a limit to this $hit. Fair enough, there should have been a limit to this $hit at least 35 years ago. But there wasn't, so what are we to do, invite/accomodate anybody that wants to kill us westerners for living on these Islands and on this part of the world because we don't agree with some sky fairy story from the Arabian Peninsula over 5000km away? I'd ask you to show me the sense in that, but you, me or anybody else literally can't.

The legal argument is this, if you literally welcome back onto your territory actual indoctrinated international criminals/murderers onto your own soil, your own homestead, to do whatever they want, what chance do you have? Lets say there are 14 criminals outside my property right now, and I invite them into my house, literally let them in? What chance have I got. You are so hung up on some bureaucratic definition of what is "legal", you have lost all notion of what it is to have some basic notion of "common sense". Fair enough man, let her in, let them all in. Let all these lunatics in that want to literally murder you because of your altruism, just be sure to tell them you pray 6 times a day to some ghost 5000km away. Which I'm sure that you definitely don't.

To state the obvious, this is not a legal argument, though it may be a "legal" one.

Dont forget to include 15 year olds have the mental age of a dopey 5 year old. Thats a key part of the "poor angle child" defence.

Note I said was being held "completely responsible" not that they had no responsibility. Of course a 15 year old should be responsible for their actions. But they can also be victims of grooming.

Pedo's will love this world ye are advocating where a 15 year old is held completely accountable for their own actions, even when they have been groomed.

But she isn't a British criminal.

That's the purpose of the trial, to find out and provide an opportunity for the alleged criminal to speak up in their defence.

I might be wrong of course, but I have my doubts that ISIS are in the loop as regards extradition and data exchange.

I suppose if they were to become Tory party donors or Trump gets in and sticks them on his "friends and family" list, things could change for Americas poodle. A beheading of Assange would certainly keep the few remaining stroppy reporters in the West in their place anyway :-)

So what you're saying is that you believe a 15 year old is legally culpable and you're refusing to answer the rest.

I understand the British stance but I think they're missing a trick here. She was the poster girl for ISIS, yet she wants to return. They should use her as the poster girl for anti-extremism. Hey look kids, here was a girl who thought the grass was greener until she got there and realised it's a barren wasteland of outdated ideologies that are not what they seem.

Obviously, she would need to fully renounce ISIS and their beliefs which she appears unwilling to do... whether this is because she is hedging her bets and knows if she does renounce them, and doesn't get out of there, she is worse than dead. I'm sure the Brits have better-qualified people who could make that call.

That she boke no UK rules? I think you must know that I said nothing of the sort. Because I've no idea. I said that UK laws do not apply abroad. That's a fact.

FWIW I think you are correct that the reason the UK is desperate to remove her British nationality is because if she kept it, then yes, there would be no legal basis on which to ban her.

The last part of your post is just an appeal to hysteria so I won't bother with it.