Deposit return scheme (recycling)

I would take a large amount of contamination to upset a recycling bins produce. Repack were running a campaign a few years ago that if your takeaway pizza box was lightly stained after use it could still go into the recycling bin

How would you suggest we "go after the spoilers of the green bin" exactly? Send cops down the road checking bins before the bin trucks do their lift and fine accordingly?

thats really convenient, thanks for that information. The vast majority of machines i've visited so far don't have a finnish button which can be annoying. i wonder if re-turn would consisder listing which stores/machines have the finnish button and which ones don't. i often get rid of high volumes at a time, and it can already be stressful getting the items there undamged and then rushing to put them in the machine one by one before the machine spits out a voucher without giving me the option to keep going until desired. its really a waste of paper spitting out 4 or 5 pieces of paper on something that can be all contained on the same 1 piece if the machine gave me more time. if i happen to be passing by churchtown i will check out their machines for the finnish button and come back at some point with a couple of black bags filled with recycleables if all goes well.

You think that some who can't be bothered to behave like an adult prior to now is someone going to do it now with all of the additional hoops to jump through for the sake of a few cent here and there?

As has happened in the German system yes it will happen here if the system is implemented properly

I applaud your use of the recycling bin, as has been mentioned here the majority know how to use it properly

Of course there will be extra car journeys. There's no way there CANNOT be extra car journeys as a result of this scheme

There's zero proof of this from the Irish or German schemes

This.

Probably "friend or family" won the contract and sourced the cheapest of cheap ass machines the Germans would consider unsuitable.

Everything here is fired together like a dogs dinner and the public are expected to tuck in and shut up. Shur Twill be grand.

Their system is much more advanced than most others, it takes back PET bottles, aluminium/steel cans, glass by the create and even some reusable stuff.

And most importantly when it was first brought in there was zero confusion. Hint hint to any re-turn people who might have stumbled across this thread

We are not German, this fact may have escaped you. We have swaths of society in this country who do not act in responsible ways (plenty of proof for that).

If the majority know how to use it properly why are we being asked to stop using it properly?

Heres the logic of the reasons why car journeys increase.

We are told that 3 percent (a trend that was increasing) of the population shop online (I've mentioned some pros of doing this above). They don't go near a shop for their weekly shop. There's nothing in place for them to return their items as part of their weekly shopping process flow.

If they want to enage with this scheme they will need to bring their items to a shop - percentage increase in car journeys than before this scheme came into place.

No massive "proof" required - just some basic logical reasoning required there.

I don't see any other data points that would balance this increase in car journeys with a reduction somewhere else in the process flow.

Include me in that. For the last year, I've been getting food delivered from supermarkets to try to cut down on car usage reducing cost/emissions etc. Now what do I do, stop buying all plastic bottles and cans?

Or use car to drive 8km to nearest re turn machine.

It's a flawed system!

Why would someone make a special dedicated car journey to the RVM ?

You obviously don't like using the car unecessarily so wouldn't it work better to visit the RVM in conjunction with another trip in that direction ?

Cutting down on car usage by getting a truck or van to deliver your groceries, a little bit of flawed thinking there... Regardless, you can still pop your products into the recycling bin like you used to, nothing has changed there for you

Just a suggestion, you could walk or cycle to your nearest RVM rather than drive if you were concerned about the environment?

No massive "proof" required - just some basic logical reasoning required there.

Some more logical thinking then.

Most of the 3% of online grocery shoppers would probably walk to their nearest RVM or they might drive there during an already planned drive and stop on the way, so most of the 3% would be unlikely to add to car journeys

Like yourself, no proof, just logical thinking

Tesco has stated that they won't take the empties back in the van due to the danger of contamination.

If you think about it there is a certain logic to that. I wouldn't like my fresh produce to be sharing a space with my neighbours empties.

I'm not aware of any other companies policies.

I did suggest a possible use of the cab space to carry a small amount but other posters thought it unworkable.

How do you know there's an RVM in walking distance?

How do you know they have a car?

Why would they go to an RVM if they shop online? They can't use the voucher for an online shop.

I don't see any logic here, just assumptions.

That's a pity. It probably makes more sense to me to return driving to the shop again. Not good for environment though.

Granted they may not set foot in the actual shop because they get deliveries.

However they may be passing nearby an RVM on another journey.

Probably, might and unlikely are not good words to use when trying to apply a bit of logical thinking.