Mart Auctioneer Pay

More than one. They knock a lot of cattle down cheap to lads around the ring

Alot of the high pedigree cattle price are lads doing their mate a turn. Ruins it for everyone else. Then lads at home reckon their stock are worth these crazy prices

The online has really shaken thing up though. Everything is recorded now, so any dodgy dealings with auctioneers run a greater risk of being seen.

Anyone know how the online system works exactly? Does the auctioneer put in the opening bid on the system? Who puts in the bids into the system for the ringside bids? Is it the auctioneer himself or the clerk?

Id say a lot of you are being a bit overly sensitive. A good auctioneer needs to keep everyone happy and that’s not an easy task.

they need to get the seller a fair price that they are happy with , they need to keep the lad that’s there day in day out happy ( the dealers) and all are mixed in with the lad who lands in to buy a few and doesn’t know the value of stock.

I regularly see dealers stock sold in Carnaross and (one dealer from Leitrim in particular) bringing in absolute scrap that seems to always be sold for crazy money.

the auctioneer in that circumstance has to try and keep him happy and will end up wasting his time selling to non existent bidders until some poor unsuspecting fool raises their hand and ends up with a dear beast.

they then have to sell cattle where the owner thinks all their ducks are swans and those people will inevitably leave thinking they were hard done by.

in both instances it’s either buyers or sellers remorse and it’s easier to blame all around them than accept that most of the time they don’t know the value of stock.

I used to think like that but more wiser now. There's a fair few crooks in the game. I know one lad taking fantom bids from the ring...he was caught out by a buyer one day. The buyer told him to go shove his bids up his a@£"^ and any stock he bought that day he wasn't paying for.

Another mart has a auctioneer ex tangler who might as well go back to his former trade.

In one mart in particular the dealers have the exact time slots every mart day and mart management cosy up. Management in Co op marts need a good shake up ...There's a cosy cartel operating for years with regards dealers, committees and renumeration packages.

That's fine but does he have to type in the opening bid as well, as in 8,0,0,enter say for €800 opening bid.

Twice I got into disputes with Ennis mart over prices I got for cattle sold. This was before online selling. When I went to get a receipt for the sales, the amount was different from what I wrote down myself in the sellers box. On one of these times, a dealer who bought one of my cows happened to come into the office when I was talking about it. They called him over and he said the lower amount was right.

On both occasions they later checked it on the tape recorder and rang me to say I was right.

Was in the mart recently and saw cattle being sold subject with the owner up the steps. Another asked why he wasn’t in the box, he told the last time the auctioneer put them on the market when he said no. He now sees them been sold and then follows into the office to confirm.

The co op and manager marts are hard work compared to owner operated Marts, the owner mart is interested in both sides and it’s in his personal interest to keep everyone coming back, the co op/ manger gets their money/ wages regardless. You only have to go back when the exporter from the midlands went belly up and the marts that got caught for money and who thought he was king, with the online now it’s very easy to watch and see what your type of stock you’re selling are making before going to the mart. But you would be surprised the amount of lads that turn up to the mart with stock and haven’t a clue what weight, grade, price the animals are worth and the same applies with the factory cattle also. There is a lot of dealers who buy for farmers, stud farms, etc in most marts and are also required to keep a trade.

Everything is put on the market here, and it has no effect if the animal is sold or not! it's just a phrase that's thrown in at random points in the bidding process!

Had the auctioneer try and knock a heifer down to a dealer on the cheap today. Heifer wasn't a matcher for any of the others, was younger and lighter but i said I'd chance her as she was a good quality heifer. Long story short I was unable to attend so watched online, the heifer got less than 15 seconds in the ring and the auctioneer spent less than 30 seconds by the way tring to sell her before quickly knocking her down to his mate and quickly commencing the sale of the next lot.

I quickly rang the mart and told them no sale and it waould be late afternoon before I could collect her. 2 hours later the mart rings back asking will I sell her as the "buyer" is ready to load her, I told them it's too late, I've transport organised, why don't they supervise there auctioneers instead of ringing me trying to do deals over the phone.

Sold 3 pairs 340 - 365kg they averaged 1040

The heifer in question weighed 270kg, she was knocked down for 630. some price difference for what was a comerade of the others.