ISI Fighter Shamima Begum Not allowed to return to the UK

ok so where ? or are you taking the word of a unrepentant radical terrorist ?

The Dandy used to make out that Desperate Dan ate cow pie, but that wouldn't make it through the courts either.

You are quoting the rubbish that hired Bozo to report fiction as fact.

Hundreds of thousands thought the EU was stopping Britain from importing proper British bananas because of the rag.

The rubbish you state is typical of the selection of facts to sell a story anyway.

Who would not be allowed carry a weapon in ISIS? I would imagine anyone not trusted and allowed to carry a weapon would have a body with a neck at two ends.

Do you know how religious cults work?

You don't like the Telegraph: is the Times any better?

As she says herself: “I’m not the same silly little 15-year-old schoolgirl who ran away from Bethnal Green four years ago,” she told me. “And I don’t regret coming here.”

She also defended the choice of the other two girls who left England with her to stay on in ISIS territory after she fled, and said they would be ashamed of her for leaving, so clearly she feels she failed compared to them by not being steadfast in her beliefs. She also defended the Manchester bombing as "reprisals". So since she thinks that children can justifiably be killed in reprisal for their government's actions, what would she think of punishing a 15 year old for her own actions? Hard to think she wouldn't approve. Except when it's her of course.

Does not regret coming here?

Get serious me old chum!

I made mistakes, I took on a disgusting job in an industry I soon hated. I was dealing with electronics, but in the gambling industry.

I had no prior knowledge in the industry and knew no one outside one of those recommending the position.

I hated the job and the people, I thought a few would be better off behind bars. I would never, ever enter the industry again under any circumstances for any pay rate.

Do I regret working in that job? No! Sometimes a high price has to be paid to learn a lesson.

Regret is a human thing dependent on time and circumstances. A woman that popped out so many duff sprogs is hardly in a fit state emotionally to look on the place in a balanced fashion I would have thought. Regret is a personal feeling, it hasn't any measurable units, so how do you relate it to not regretting a visit to the dentist, or not regretting a walk in the park?

You need to quantify these things really to convey any meaning.

Have a go on Google, see if you can find something else that agrees more solidly with your fixation.

Frankly the poor woman has my sympathy. Anyone with a value for British citizenship these days deserves pity. Once it was a nationality to take pride in, but when the entire nation chooses to follow liars and behave like a bunch of lemmings, then they go on to vote a compulsive liar with a history of incompetence and failed projects to lead them, it really does throw any value that being British still has into question.

My MP in Britain was Gullis, he lied to me. I have the email. The questions that could not be answered with factual distortion were ignored. I wonder if Begum trotted out as many lies as your average Tory MP?

so you have nothing but the bleating's of a unrepentant terrorist then, and even that contradicts your narrative that she somehow deserves pity

In what circumstances were you wandering about with such an arsenal to know ? because if you think its fine to wander around with those sort of weapons it is absolutely a cause for concern ? Routinely carrying firearms would further indicate that she was an active and able part of a group who were the enemy of civilization .

I ve actually carried firearms on occasion and have a very different view, id be interested to hear how you think it ok to openly carry assault weapons.

nd imo committing a criminal act makes you a criminal. hard to believe that need to e clarified but here we are I guess 🤷‍♂️

lol

confronted with more evidence and you go off on that bs tangent ?

so you went and corroborated your version then ? or just dont like the multiple link posted here

justice and fair treatment would be to leave her to die where she is

you never carried a weapon in public then? , nothing like close to the example you tried to make

A classic example of Lefties losing it. The Telegraph was here before you and will be here long after you’re gone buddy.

The topic refers to the lady being made stateless, not her suitability for employment as a babysitter. Maybe the plethora of words was too much?

Anyway, were you to define suitability to retain citizenship by the integrity level required of a babysitter, I suspect the British Isles would have a pretty low population density.

If you don't understand the "word salad" it's easily checkable incidentally. Sometimes you have to look beyond your immediate experience and time period to see different behavioural trends.

Anyway the point replied to was that The lady not realising beheadings were wrong until age eighteen was comical, so naturally it brings to mind that in Britain most of the country saw beheadings as a jolly good day out at one time.

I know that a lot here don't get out much and do not understand the implications of being made stateless, they also look on things in very simplistic terms and try to mould their ideas of justice into something in keeping with their own experience. The woman has not had the justice a British citizen is entitled to. It really is that simple.

Hmmm, there's a bang of Walter Mitty off this. You had a jig to prove you could fire up into the air? I don;t think that required proof. And why were the MOD testing AK47s? skeptical to say the least.

Regardless, the context that you are missing is that the rules of a civilised society are not the same as that for a militant muslim group. Women are second class. If this women was allow, by her male terrorist leaders, to carry a weapon. She had both a need, and some sort of position of power within ISIS. Conflating that with a legal authorise and test firearms is laughable.

Thanks for the advice.

I would be 100% confident the ToryGraph made it up.

It's what they do.

To be fair to them they have serious competition in the UK. The Sun, Mail, Express and Stephen King are all competing hard for the attentions of the less able fiction lover.

Arguably Stephen Kings followers are less intellectually challenged and not quite as gullible as few of his readers take his work as factual though.

Ah, when you referred to tested firearms for MoD I assumed you included the AK in that. As previously you said you carried an AK47, and many other weapons. So that’s begs the question in what capacity you were carrying an AK47, if not during testing for the MOD?

A firearm fires a projectile at many times the force of gravity. I wouldn't have thought that was any concern overcoming the force of gravity. Were the MoD cutting corners or something, what cheap firearm where you testing?

But sure, maybe that feel the need to test everything for reasons. That doesn't back up the claim though. Why were you were carrying an AK47?

Gravity isn't a force, it's termed an interaction. I prefer to visualise it as a distortion of space/ time, it's a lot simpler that way.

But that apart, my job was to ensure things worked wherever their users went and under the same conditions or as near as possible.

Like the numerous photographers that went off to photograph their antics up in the Arctic, the reality of silver oxide batteries in their hitherto reliable equipment came as a shock. The MOD wasn't keen on a squaddie finding out that when he pulled the trigger on his weapon the projjie didn't exit the barrel because it was cold and raining outside. We never tested for it, but I suppose we should have tried them on Sundays and bank holidays also :-(

I never carried an AK47 in my life, like Begum though I was allowed to carry an AK47 should one be provided.

You haven't followed the reasoning at all have you?

You know its obvious that somebody reads something off Wikipedia but hasn’t understood it.

Gravity is an interaction between objects with mass. When dealing planet scale objects, that interaction manifests as an accelerating force. Space-time, lmfao

Right, as I expected. You were talking nonsense. You did not carry an AK as you tried to claim. Begum did (a distinction you seem to be missing).

And the fact you think you would have been allowed to, suggests, the entire story is a lie. Somebody in the MoD weapons dept would be authorised to handle mod weapons. It’s pretty obvious why that would not include the AK47. 😂

Not to mind the fact you are comparing authorisation of a government department, with a terrorist organisation. 🤣🤣