Why don't GAA matches sell out?

Season tickets in hurling are based on capacity of the smaller venues. Can't understand why bigger counties can't run "home only" season tickets or tickets where you get league seats but championship terrace.

A problem both rugby and hurling have is people taking up season tickets just to be in the running for the big game tickets.

Have heard of some sports doing that. Most hilariously the soccer World Cup in Qatar.

People say that the National League is the best competition in GAA but in reality it is a joke of a competition because noone actually wants to make it to the final. You actually have articles saying that finishing third is the sweet spot. What other sport would you here it in?

Not sure of the relevance of the perceived make up of the attendance but I'm not sure it (Limerick-Kilkenny 2018) qualifies as a "great" attendance for an All Ireland quarter final as you said.

A lot of grounds have had reduced capacity over the last few years due to increased health and safety regulations.

So you have situations where there is space on the terraces but the max number of tickets have been sold.

The famous Newbridge or nowhere game was an example of this.

Kilkenny don't really have many fans at all. It may be a hurling mad county but it's also a very small one.

Oversized yes but again there is nothing to suggest that "comfort" comes in to it.

Backdoor is also gone now.

The round robin is effectively a back door as it renders the provincial championships less important and you get a second chance.

I'd contend that comfort is a factor.

What I am "trying to argue" is two-folds. One: the Limerick-Kilkenny attendance in 2018 was not "great" (as claimed by somebody). It was better than Clare-Wexford but not "great".

The Clare-Tipperary game (it was the previous year actually) is actually completely relevant as it was also (like Limerick-Kilkenny) a quarter final do is directly comparable.

The Clare-Tipperary game is also completely relevant as it challenges directly your view that Clare-Wexford had a poor attendance only because of the venue. Obviously plenty of Clare people were able to travel for another quarter final a year earlier.

It's widely accepted that back doors and round robins have reduced the importance of provincial competitions. And if a competition becomes less important then it's just logical that less people will attend it. I really don't see how anyone could say otherwise.

I was there on Saturday evening too. Wasn't it unreal. I have never seen it as bad. I was seated in the Hogan, close enough to the Davin stand corner. There were multiple groups of teenagers constantly going in and out, up and down the aisles, and standing up on the seats shouting across the stand to each other. I moved to a different location, and then a group of drunk adults came in beside me, and had their pints of guinness with them They managed to sneak them by the security people. They had no interest in the game. They spent most of the while that I was there with them just trying to start Mexican waves. They should really give stand-up a go, cause they thought they were the funniest guys alive - each one laughing hysterically at their own jokes. I moved again, and this time got a bit of piece to actually enjoy the match.

It was only ever quieter type concerts for me that this kind of cr@p happens for me. I didn't think it would seep into Croke Park matches.

Often times GAA grounds are very empty because they feature huge terraces behind each goal that are not that expensive to build and are quite old pulling up the overall capacity massively.

But in reality most seats in the main stands will be used. If Kerry were to do a redevelopment they'd need to spend about 30M alone doing up one of the stands along the side and it would be money well spent.

The overall GAA crowds yearly are astonishing and it's money well spent. Especially in Kerry. Add up everyone who attended a club or county game in Kerry and for a small county it's huge.

Did they not change that, and are charging them now? Or maybe it was just proposed but didn't happen.

Okay, at least you are getting my point. Now to refer back to the original point which is that the attendance of Clare-Wexford in the League was about what might be expected if not more than might be expected.

The post you have just provided seems to say that there was a bigger crowd at the Clare-Tipperary game because more Clare and Tipperary people travelled which is fairly obvious really. I never was getting into trying to explain any of this.. I just took issue with a claim that Wexford-Clare game recently in the League had a poor attendance and that the Limerick-Kilkenny attendance in 2018 was "great". Neither appears to be the case when you look at what might have been expected in the context of comparable fixtures.

Actually the original comment was a reference to National League attendance of 4,000 between the counties (Clare-Wexford) which was considered poor. I know this because I was the one who mentioned the quarter-final (Clare-Wexford) attendance in reply (it's on page 3 with the original post included) to provide a context which maybe shows that the National League attendance at 40% of a championship game played at the height of the summer between the same teams was actually reasonably good.

Your subtle little shift there from "the original comment about the 2018 Al Ireland quarter final" to "my first comment" is telling. The discussion about Clare-Wexford was already in train before you got involved.

This is just weird now. You are just getting more confused (and are refusing to read back to the origin of the discussion). Let's leave it.